Trespassing -how can I get rid?

claire1976

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Someone has decided to help themselves to my field and stables whilst I'm not using them. They've proper set up camp there and I want rid of them.
What rights do I have just to remove the horses or what can I do to evict them?
 
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. They've just plonked themselves there?? Are they travellers?
I would get the police involved.
 
you have to apply for an eviction order through the council. I would speak to the police, citizens advice and the council first thing in the morning.
 
Call your local council traveller liaison team in the morning if that is what they are.

If it is just unidentified horses, then go and put signs up giving them notice to quit with dire warnings that the horses will be seized- as a landowner you have a liability remember for their welfare - you can use that to your benefit
 
Yeah, reckon its travellers. Dumped 1 pony in a stable and 4 others on the field, its only 1.9 acres and already its trashed!
I've logged incident with police who don't seem too interested! I've dropped an e-mail to my contact at the council to get some advice tomorrow. Can I not just remove the horses and leave a note on the gate telling them where I've moved them??!!
 
Mmm, lots of spare fields around the peak district. Surely a nice grassy field with fresh water would be better than my poxy paddock. Bl00dy travellers are a chuffin nuisance. Probably have more rights than I do.
 
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I wouldn't bother with a note!

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YOu would have to, otherwise it might be construed as theft.

The horses could be removed somewhere else, this is where the welfare legislation can be turned to your advantage, and the people who have dumped them on your land could then be billed for the livery. I have used this method with success - they never try it again, that's for sure!

However since you have a building there, and don't want to find it a smoking ruin in the morning it might be as well to give them notice of your intentions.
 
Police will not be interested as its a civil offence unfortunately. If they don't go following your notices etc you will probabaly need to get a court order requiring them to leave. Ring your local County Court too and ask for some advice from the Court Manager. The Council may be able to offer you some advice - they may have a traveler liasion person or alternatively their Legal team may have some advice to give.
 
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I wouldn't bother with a note!

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YOu would have to, otherwise it might be construed as theft.

The horses could be removed somewhere else, this is where the welfare legislation can be turned to your advantage, and the people who have dumped them on your land could then be billed for the livery. I have used this method with success - they never try it again, that's for sure!

However since you have a building there, and don't want to find it a smoking ruin in the morning it might be as well to give them notice of your intentions.

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This is what I'm concerned about. Last thing I want is my £3k stables going up in flames.
Damn it, I wanted a quick solution but doesn't look like I have one. What livery yard is gonna want 5 strange horses on there with no promise of payment.
 
If you have not got any stock on the place... take the gates and stable doors off.... then phone the RSPCA and tell them horses have strayed on to your land. They will take them away because it is not secure. If you have any horses on, take them elsewhere. When the lorry comes to pick up their horses you might find yours go too.

Put a notice up saying you will be spraying the grazing with herbicide next week and then do it! Or get the grazing ploughed and re-seed. It will be worth every penny.

You need to make your spot less convenient for them than other places... then they will move.
 
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If you have not got any stock on the place... take the gates and stable doors off.... then phone the RSPCA and tell them horses have strayed on to your land. They will take them away because it is not secure. If you have any horses on, take them elsewhere. When the lorry comes to pick up their horses you might find yours go too.

Put a notice up saying you will be spraying the grazing with herbicide next week and then do it! Or get the grazing ploughed and re-seed. It will be worth every penny.

You need to make your spot less convenient for them than other places... then they will move.

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Can't really take gates off, the field is located right in the middle of a housing estate and horses may wander onto road, I don't want to put them in danger.
My horses are not on there at the moment so I have no issues there, I am just concerned for my stables.
Think I will leave a note saying field being sprayed and see what happens.
 
Yikes - what a horrible situation to be in. Poor, poor you. I agree with Roslie - not much else to do
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I cannot believe the 'squatters' rights in this country - eugh. Its the same to me as ramblers....sorry, have had problems with them and don't understand the concept of 'rambling; across other people's property. Christ...

I would say that you have a problem - they are going to be hard to get rid of, and then you have the threat of retribution - I know of a bunch of Irish gypsies (not to stereotype, but they did the same thing near Hickstead) setting fire to cars just up the road.

Good luck, and please let us know how it ges..
 
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If they don't pay you can seize the horses and auction them...........



can you tell I have played this game before?

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Yeah, gather you have some experience! I hope it doesn't come to that but I hear there is a massive horse sale in the area in a couple of weeks!! Don't I need passports though and all that before I could auction them?
 
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Yikes - what a horrible situation to be in. Poor, poor you. I agree with Roslie - not much else to do
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I cannot believe the 'squatters' rights in this country - eugh. Its the same to me as ramblers....sorry, have had problems with them and don't understand the concept of 'rambling; across other people's property. Christ...

I would say that you have a problem - they are going to be hard to get rid of, and then you have the threat of retribution - I know of a bunch of Irish gypsies (not to stereotype, but they did the same thing near Hickstead) setting fire to cars just up the road.

Good luck, and please let us know how it ges..

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Yeah, the chuffers, pain in the backside. Might get my farmer friend to dump a load of cattle in there, might stir things up a bit.
 
Well regardless, good luck...I really feel for you. Could just offer to build them some speed humps - then maybe they would think that you are a top level gyp?! (hehe, thats what we had coming to our front door - I remember it well - I was 6 and there was a boy sucking a lolly with no front teeth....) in West Sussex.

Yeah, do the cow thing, or as previously mentioned, say that work on the field is being done...hehe.
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Take the gates away and then stand there and call the RSPCA. You can make sure they don't get out and it will mean it is an emergency situation and they will have to come right away.

The horses are probably bound for the local sale. They probably won't have passports and most sale rooms can passport horses on the day of sale.
 
Can you not do something like block off the field entrance so they cant get the horse out or their vehicles in etc.? Or put locks on your stable doors - if they then damage them to get in you can get them done for criminal damage!
 
The police won't be interested in the incident as it is a civil matter. I would speak to CAB or a solicitor & possibly ILPH. The problem will probably easier to settle that if travellers actually moved themselves onto your land. I doubt if you need any court order or anything to get the horses removed. As far as you are concerned they have been abandoned on your land. Possibly the ILPH will be able to remove & if not may be able to advise you?
 
What if they've not actually been abandoned though. The neighbours say they've seen someone attending to the horses so they are not being neglected. I've failed to catch anyone there myself. I think i will have to put up a notice first before doing anything, don't want to land myself in trouble and I know this country's legal system often fails to protect the victim.
 
These horses are on your land without permission. What you must do is firstly, to care for them, ensure they have feed, water and are safe. That is a legal requierment.
Next you must post notices on the field hedges/gates and anywhere locally where they will be seen. After 14 days, if the owners have not come forward, you are entitled to sell them. Should the owners come forward after this time they are entitled to the money you received, minus livery costs and costs to cover any damage incurred.
 
I really feel for you. It reminds me of the time some weirdo set up a tent in my back garden! It took several days before we finally got rid of him. Had the police round but they couldnt do anything. My boyfriend at the time threatened to set light to his tent with him in it and the next day he was gone!
 
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