tricky question...horse waiting to be sold by a dealer

Why has the dealer not contacted you? If they are as reputable as you thought then surely they would have wanted to give you updates?
I think your inexperience has clearly shown through here, when I first read your post I thought you meant you had sent the horse off in Nov 09 not 08! You've left it way too long now I'm afraid if the horse has been sold then I would be asking myself why the dealer never contacted me - obviously not reputable at all if that is the case!
 
So when you found the dealer again in September 09 after loosing contact in May 09 what did he say? We are now another 6 months on yet you still have not made contact with the dealer?
 
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So when you found the dealer again in September 09 after loosing contact in May 09 what did he say? We are now another 6 months on yet you still have not made contact with the dealer?

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Exactly!! Was it not the right guy? Please explain.........
 
Shocked and horrified
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I just feel sorry for the horse tbh and think you can kiss goodbye to any money you want to recoup.
 
Just get in the car and make the trip. If the horse is there, then speak to the dealer. If not, then I'm afraid you'll have to cut your losses and walk away. i agree with the others that whatever the dealer did with the horse, whether it was quickly after he got him or after a long time, either the livery fees will have eaten up any profit, or the time limit for realistically asking for the money will have passed long ago. As you clearly don't want the horse back, I'd say you are best to forget the whole thing and be thankful.

Even at the dry cleaners there is a sign saying that goods left there for longer than 3 months will be sold on.
 
If the horse is as dangerous as you say, then hopefully nobody else got hurt/conned into buying it. And, surely it would not be worth very much, so it would be a nominal sum anyway?

Good luck with speaking to the dealer, I hope that the horse is well and has found a new good home a long time ago. I am sure lots of people on the forum would be interested in hearing how things went, if you post an update.
 
Good lord what a mess.

I hope the horse is well, wherever he is. I too feel you will probably end up oweing the dealer money in this instance.

I understand completely you have a duty of care towrds your daughter and are not going to feel too attached to a horse who was dangerous towards her. But, and I can't believe that I must point out the legal situation - because appear not to be interested in your moral obligation to this horse, you DO have a duty of care to your horse, which you have no reason to believe has been sold yet. Under the Animal Welfare Act you are responsible legally if there is a welfare problem with the horse.

Even if no other reason compells you to act, you should be worried about your legal position, both in terms of his welfare and your livery bill. Best case you can hope for is for the dealer to write it off.
 
This is all very strange i know the dealer in question i have offered the op that i would go and see him if she gave me details of the horse but funny no contact some thing not right about this
 
Just to point out that the limitation for pursuing a claim for breach of contract is six years so technically the OP is not out of time for pursuing this. However it may well be the case that the contract has not been breached but that the sale price has been swallowed up by fees or that this is simply a misunderstanding.

I don't understand what OP is playing at but thought i should point out the correct limitation period as someone had said she might be too late to pursue things.
 
I think the issue here is that the OP beleived thehorse to be worth 3,500. Thats what they paid for the horse. However the Op will admit that they where misssold the horse. The horse does not sound like it was worth 3,500.

When the dealer took the horse on to sell, did they agree the horse was worth 3,500, did you disclose the full details of the horses problems?

If the dealer agreed to take the horse on to sell, how much did you expect to have back from the sale?

You mention that you where told you would receive a min of 1,000 back,

Bareing this in mind, i cant see how you can now expect to be 3,500 in pocket if the horse has sold.

If the horse had not sold when you contacted him last, then already he was with the dealer for a long time. was there any mention on livery costs as the horse had been there a long time?

If the horse was difficult to sell, and took longer, and cost more to keep becasue of this, then it may be that you are not owed much at all.

it is a strange situation, hwoever you need to get down there in yoru car and speak to the guy in person.

Only you know the full details of what was agreed. It does sound a strange arrangement though.
 
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i've been messed around by horse dealers but do I deserve or does anyone deserve to be conned out of £3500

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No one has conned you out of £3500. You say the first dealer shouldnt have sold you the horse but it could be a case that you shouldnt have bought the horse. You saw it several times before purchase and thought it was ok, hence you bought it. The original dealer didnt make you buy it. Ok, so she may not have been totally truthful but if you are a nervous/novice owner you should have taken a professional second opinion to help you.

The second dealer certainly hasnt conned you. If you have had no contact with him for 9 months what is he supposed to do? 6 months ago you found out his name yet you are still complaining now you havnt got your money. BUT YOU HAVNT CONTACTED HIM! Its not his fault it takes you the best part of a year to contact him.

You also signed an agreement that you would get a minimum of £1000. Now youre saying you cant lose £3500. But at the time the horse left you signed to say £1000 was acceptable.

I am sorry but it is too late to be worrying about the money now. You put the safety of your family first, which is fine but you cant suddenly decide that its all the dealers fault you havnt been paid! Its your own fault for not looking after the contract and staying in touch with the person you entrusted to sell the horse.

You seem to be blaming everyone else but yourself. You feel a victim. However im afraid to say you put yourself in the situation and you have no-one to blame but yourself.
 
Jay-d Ok, i remember your last post and i think i replied to it, i do know the dealer you sent your horse to, if you want to pm me i will see if there is anything i can do .
 
I would have thought that any reschooling needed would be quite costly if the horse was a dngerous as the op says. I wonder if the sort of "sorting out" needed would be possible, or if this has become someone else's problem - I really hope not.
 
I know Peter! Did you get hold of him? He's actually a really nice bloke and good to deal with, I've got his number if you still haven't got it.
 
Oh dear
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Unless he's being used in riding school I'd be very surprised if dealer has still got him? Why not pick the phone up and ask or, pay dealer a surprise visit. I know he's not close to you but would be worth the effort. Seems such a long time not to have had conatct from either side. If people on here know the dealer I'm sure someone could have given you contact details.
Hope you find out what's happened to him.
 
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I got rid of him quickly because...when a horse nearly kills your daughter and I am not exagerating and also I nearly lost the use of half of my right hand...you tend to want to get rid asap and at the time I was just thankful my daughter escaped with her life I really didn't care a bloody hoot who took him or where he went at that time..but I can't afford to loose all of the £3500 I paid It was very clear from the begining that I expected a sale.

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I havent had time to read all the replies to this. But you say the horse nearly killed your daughter yet you "can't afford to loose all of the £3500" and that you've been "conned". A horse who tried to kill someone is worth NOTHING in my opinion!! You've just tried to pawn a killer-horse (I dont know if this is an over reaction or not) off on some dealer to sell as probably some nice riding club horse?!

I can't understand how you've left it 15 months. Even if the horse IS over the other side of the country, the horse at the end of the day is still yours!
 
QR, alrighty, i don't suppose you will read this now, as my offer of help has been ignored i am suposing you have , A, already spoken to Peter, or B, did'nt realy need the help at all!!!
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JD i see you have been online, would an update be possible? did u manage to contact the dealer and find out what happened to yr horse?
 
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