Trying to track down sire/dam of my IDx.....

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He's by RID (?) Hillview Farm Galway Bay (have a picture of him as a rose grey 1 year old colt) out of an Irish mare called Aille (big bright bay mare).

From what I've managed to find out, Galway Bay died quite young (my boy was born in 2001) as I believe he was born around 1997 - so did he sire any other offspring? do you know what happened to him?
I did email the English Hillview stud but they never got back to me.

Galway Bays sire was Ebony Hill and his dam was Airport Rose.
Aille was sired by Fogarty (ID sport horse?) but don't know her dam.

I bought my boy just before his third birthday (2004), from a lady in Finmere, who had bought him off a friend who apparently went back to Ireland and couldn't take him with her.

As the title says really, just would like to find out a bit more really!
 
if you ring the irish horse board they will give you details on the stallions and if you speak nicely they quite often will give info on mares too
 
ooh I bred him... how exciting. Aille was my mare, she came from Lesley Dungworth of Bourne, I bought Galway Bay from Northants horse sales as a yearling. He covered Aille when he was 1year and 10 months... I have loads of pictures....
 
Sorry to hijack, but is there any reason why you chose to breed such a young stallion? I'm a stallion owner and breeder myself, it just strikes me as a little odd, feel free to PM if you'd prefer.
 
He chose to breed...not me!!! I had him turned out with Aille and another mare and he got both of them in foal. I knew it was possible, but I didnt think it probable he would mate so early, especially as he didnt seem very well developed at the time.
 
PLEEASE... if anyone knows SassieSox tell them I replied... I tried to pm her with more info, addresses etc but it seems I am unable to do that.....
 
SassieSoz said:
He's by RID (?) Hillview Farm Galway Bay (have a picture of him as a rose grey 1 year old colt) out of an Irish mare called Aille (big bright bay mare).

From what I've managed to find out, Galway Bay died quite young (my boy was born in 2001) as I believe he was born around 1997 - so did he sire any other offspring? do you know what happened to him?
I did email the English Hillview stud but they never got back to me.
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From the IDHS(GB) database - Hillviewfarm Galway Bay - F/717/M/0052 (so although he was pure-bred he wasn't graded RID). Bred by Mrs Vikki Mathews - last owner - Mr JE Bodman. He was born in 1998 - time of death not on the DB. NO progeny by this colt were registered with IDHS(GB) which doesn't mean he didn't have any - just that they weren't registered with IDHS(GB)

Can't help with the mare, I'm afraid - she's not in the DB!
 
stormox said:
He chose to breed...not me!!! I had him turned out with Aille and another mare and he got both of them in foal. I knew it was possible, but I didnt think it probable he would mate so early, especially as he didnt seem very well developed at the time.
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I hope you've learned your lesson!:D Colts can successfully cover mares at ANY time from about 9 months! Visible 'development' is irrelevent! Even if the testicles haven't descended they can still be fertile!

Shame he never went to grading because his dam was a cracking mare - Hornby Select and beautifully bred!
 
I dont think I had a lesson to learn! I knew it could happen. I bought Galway at Northampton market when he was 10 months old. He was very scrawny, and had a bad stifle injury. But he was so nice, and had a lovely temperament I thought I'd give him a chance. so I bid against the meat man, and got him. I turned him out with my mares, and after a couple of months rest hadnt made any difference to his stifle I had him scanned at Newmarket where he was found to have torn the medial patellar ligament off the bone. The vet (Andy Bathe) said he was in no pain and would be suitable for light hacking.
So he lived a happy life with me, and when I moved over toIreland I sold my 2mares, the weaned foals, and Galtee who went to a lovely farmer to hack round the farm. I have some lovely letters and pictures of him. I did look him up on NED and saw he was deceased. But at least I gave him a few happy years, and he sired 2 lovely foals, one of which(Cassie) Ive kept in touch with, and now I might hear how the other one (Isaac) doing. So learning a lesson?? a laughing face?? I dont think thats fair
 
I forgot to say the chap that had Galway at the market said the injury had been caused by a gang of youths chasing him over a fence and he was hung up by his hind legs. He was a really lovely chap- a good 16.2 as a 3year old. I couldnt have let him go for meat- was it really so wrong of me to let him sire acouple of foals? I had plenty of grazing, and two classy mares.
But really this thread isnt about the rights and wrongs of using a young colt- its someone trying to find out about their horse- I do hope she reads this and gets in touch-
 
stormox said:
So learning a lesson?? a laughing face?? I dont think thats fair
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The 'smiley' was to show I WASN'T 'having a go' at you, although TBH, it's not something I would have done. But too many people DO turn young colts out with fillies thinking they're 'too young' to DO anything - and plenty of unwanted foals get born as a result so I DO take any opportunity to remind EVERYONE who reads this thread about the age that a colt can be fertile!!

In your case, you obviously didn't MIND the mares getting in foal - and the foals had a good future - so no harm done. But your colt WAS a particularly nicely bred, pure-bred Irish Draught, not a Heinz 57 as many colts put in this situation are!
 
Airport Rose is the dam of my old chap Connaught Grey. She was bred in ireland by Christy Grealish, was imported to the UK and Vickie Matthews had her for quite a long time, and then the Grealish family bought her back. They lost her about 18 months ago but she was quite old.
Absolutely cracking mare and bred some lovely stock.
 
oh sorry JanetGeorge- not good at interpreting 'smilys'- i know the little yellow ones but thought that ghastly green grin was a laugh!! actually I agree with you completely- there was one other man wanted Galway at the sale- a nasty tinker type who was known for having feral underfed not-looked-after animals and he wanted to turn him with all these yearling/2 yrolds/ancient mares. He started bidding and then said to me 'Il stop bidding if you give me £20- and to shut him up I said yes. The meatman dropped out and I was the happy buyer. I didnt intend to give this chap any money, but when nearly evryone had gone home and I was waiting for my transport he came and found me and was VERY threatening- I gave him his £20. The next sale I mentioned this to the auctioneers- they werent interested.
 
stormox said:
there was one other man wanted Galway at the sale- a nasty tinker type who was known for having feral underfed not-looked-after animals and he wanted to turn him with all these yearling/2 yrolds/ancient mares. He started bidding and then said to me 'Il stop bidding if you give me £20- and to shut him up I said yes.
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Well done. There are a LOT of irresponsible people (I won't call them breeders!) who whack any old colt out with any old mare, don't care for them properly, then dump the offspring in sales where they fetch peanuts (and usually go for meat!) For that reason I won't sell my young colts ungelded, unless I'm 101% sure the buyer is responsible - I prefer to geld them first. And if a colt grades Class 2 then he's gelded unless I have enough faith in him to use him myself - then I keep him (or if he doesn't meet my standards, he gets gelded.)
 
Hello all,
Thank you for the replies - it's helped to fill in the missing links.

And,

Stormox managed to finally track me down and came to see 'our' boy on Sunday. I was so excited as she came bearing pics of him as a foal - she also has some of him when he was 5 hours old which she will send me when she returns home :-)

Turns out he also has a half sister who is not a million miles away from me - I'm so chuffed that I now know his full history.

It's hard to judge how good or long a horses memory is, especially going back to when they're so young, but his reaction to her was not the standard way of him reacting to new people (he normally just ignores them!). Who knows, but it was interesting to see.
 
I wonder if he did? It seems totally impossible that 11 years after I sold a 6month foal he would remember me...... even though I handled him from very soon after birth. We will never know- but he did seem to be sniffing me very hard, and waited for me to catch up before walking on with his owner.... anyway, I was delighted to see him again, and so happy he has had such a wonderful understanding owner for the past 11 years :)
 
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