Trying up?

[shell23]

A strange one.

A few weeks ago my horse kind of tied up after a relaxed hack. His near side shoulder twitching then he couldn't lift his leg or move. Had vet out ( on a Sunday?! ) who agreed it was like cramp in the shoulder/chest area & the gave a muscle relaxer injection. He leapt out to field like a racehorse & has been fine until yesterday.

Again a chilled hack, back in stable notice shoulder twitch so quickly untacked & take out to wander on grass using the equilibrium heat mitt on shoulder & kept him wandering for a while. This seemed to help as wasn't half as bad or a long as first time.

It's strange as we did camp last weekend & he was fine. Also had massage last Friday & nothing found. Although she did mention could be lactic acid build up.

He doesn't use a salt or Himalayan lick, also won't eat electrolytes. But will eat table salt in his dinner.

Any advice or help please.

Thanks

 

[Snow Falcon]

What was the weather like, was it hot? Did you have any bloods done? What breed is, would he be a candidate for PSSM?

 

[shell23]

What was the weather like, was it hot? Did you have any bloods done? What breed is, would he be a candidate for PSSM?

 

[shell23]

Wasn't hot at all, we're north Scotland.
He's an Irish sports horse. No bloods done as vet wasn't too concerned

 

[SEL]

Worth getting vitamin E and selenium levels tested - although I'd have those alongside a full blood panel if it's happened twice.

 

[Bob notacob]

A strange one.

A few weeks ago my horse kind of tied up after a relaxed hack. His near side shoulder twitching then he couldn't lift his leg or move. Had vet out ( on a Sunday?! ) who agreed it was like cramp in the shoulder/chest area & the gave a muscle relaxer injection. He leapt out to field like a racehorse & has been fine until yesterday.

Again a chilled hack, back in stable notice shoulder twitch so quickly untacked & take out to wander on grass using the equilibrium heat mitt on shoulder & kept him wandering for a while. This seemed to help as wasn't half as bad or a long as first time.

It's strange as we did camp last weekend & he was fine. Also had massage last Friday & nothing found. Although she did mention could be lactic acid build up.

He doesn't use a salt or Himalayan lick, also won't eat electrolytes. But will eat table salt in his dinner.

Any advice or help please.

Thanks

Mix the table salt with low sodium salt 50/50 .This is a basic electrolyte mix.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

My friends haffie did this, she was diagnosed with PSSM

 

[Goldenstar]

Somethings up I would start with some blood work to see what’s what and be prepared to get a vet quickly after another episode to see what shows something is going on .

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

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[shell23]

Somethings up I would start with some blood work to see what’s what and be prepared to get a vet quickly after another episode to see what shows something is going on .

Thanks, the vet did come out to the first episode

 

[I'm Dun]

The fact they didnt take bloods as soon as they came out would be enough for me to look for a new vet I'm afraid. Your horse tied up, you need to know how badly and why.

 

[shell23]

The fact they didnt take bloods as soon as they came out would be enough for me to look for a new vet I'm afraid. Your horse tied up, you need to know how badly and why.

We don't actually think it was tying up. It was the near side front shoulder & leg. I do trust my vet I've used for many years.

 

[Goldenstar]

You need blood work .

 

[SEL]

You really do need bloods. Lactic acid build up isn't really a thing with horses but there are 101 things it could be.

Pssm, other myopathy, electrolytes, selenium, vitamin E, liver etc etc

Even a virus

My one who does tie up doesn't do the frozen solid act that vets are traditionally taught is a tie up. It's easy to mistake it for mild colic or laminitis except I've had her 9 years so know the signs. Bloods are really necessary for knowing if there is muscle or liver damage.

 

[TGM]

If your horse does it again then I would definitely get bloods taken straight away to determine whether this is a tying up episode or not, so you are not trying to guess at a diagnosis. If it is tying up then it will also tell you how bad the episode is. We had one that occasionally tied up and we would have a blood test done immediately and then we also had follow up bloods taken to tell us how well the horse was recovering from the episode which was useful for knowing when to resume normal work.

 

[I'm Dun]

You really do need bloods. Lactic acid build up isn't really a thing with horses but there are 101 things it could be.

Pssm, other myopathy, electrolytes, selenium, vitamin E, liver etc etc

Even a virus

My one who does tie up doesn't do the frozen solid act that vets are traditionally taught is a tie up. It's easy to mistake it for mild colic or laminitis except I've had her 9 years so know the signs. Bloods are really necessary for knowing if there is muscle or liver damage.

another one whose mare looked like she had LGL when she mildly tied up.