Tumeric + Oil benefits, without pepper?

I thought you had to feed the pepper as it aids absorption? I make Golden Paste for my horses and myself using turmeric, organic coconut oil (I believe its the best type of oil to feed with this) and the pepper. I dont always use freshly ground, I'll sometimes just cheat and buy the ready ground stuff because I dont really see the big difference between them.

I cant really say Ive seen a difference feeding it to the horses, hard to say as you cant measure if its helping as such (I feed it mainly to fend off sarcoids in one horse and to help aid mud fever). In myself, I mainly find it really helps me sleep well - just drank my nightly golden paste milk not long ago!
 
I make the golden paste with tumeric, pepper and organic cocoanut oil for my arthritic old dog ... I let myself run out a few days ago and he has definitely stiffened up over 3 to 4 days, so tomorrow's job is to make a fresh batch and freeze it. I thought you had to add the pepper to aid absorption too. Not looked into it for horses yet ... read somewhere they had to eat an inordinate amount to make a difference, but plan to research more.
 
I still add pepper, but it's not always fed freshly ground. It's sometimes added to the evening feed in the morning, then left in the stable until he comes in (which isn't always done by me, and I don't want to generate extra work.)

I don't make golden paste either. I just add two teaspoons of turmeric to the feed, mix in a couple of glugs of olive oil, then grind the pepper on at the end. My oldie loves it. He's looking very limber, and I was just commenting yesterday on his fluid movement in the field. He's arthritic in several places, and used to be on a daily bute. He's definitely doing better on the turmeric. He's been on it for nearly a year, and the difference is very noticeable.
 
Pepper has to be freshly ground as the piperazine is lost which is the agent you are wanting to feed You can smell it coming off the feed. Think it lasts about 20 minutes. I do however believe it is effective without just not as effective as if you use the pepper. If you need to leave the feed ready for morning grind it very coarsely as the horse chewing it will release the piperazine
 
I have found benefits with feeding turmeric without the pepper (was already feeding micronised linseed). I'm not convinced about the need for fresh pepper with horses for the curcumin to be absorbed, all the evidence I've seen (including the link above) is with regard to humans or lab animals like mice and the digestive processes are pretty different. Of course piperine does have pain relieving properties of its own and certainly can't do any harm to feed it too.
 
Thats interesting thanks windand rain. Irishdraft - I thought the type of oil was very important, is linseed one of the oils they say works with turmeric? I used to use olive oil but then read any type of olive oil is wrong to use as it doesnt act as an inflammatory, it does the opposite? Hence I believed only cold pressed, organic coconut oil was best.
 
Linseed is a recommended oil but if using micronised linseed then you need 3 times as much linseed to turmeric so if you use a small scoop of turmeric you need 3 small scoops of micronised linseed. I just chuck in some oat straw chaff and grass nuts the ponies love it without making them hugely fat.
Small scoop is a 25 mil vitamins scoop
 
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