Ulcer success stories please? Feeling downhearted!

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Stanley was scoped on Wednesday and found to have grade 2 and 3 pyloric ulcers. He has started on gastrogard and vet recommended he is on full dose for 2 months as pyloric area harder to treat. He is also on pronutrin(which he is being very picky about) as recommended by the vet.

At the moment he is completely unrideable as the second you produce tack he is ready to explode. I know it will take a while for him to get over this and I am just giving him some excercise in hand at the mo. Just need some success stories as at the moment I feel I will never see him back as he was. Anyone experienced this type of ulcer before and got over them?

Thanks for reading
 
kinnygirl1 said:
Stanley was scoped on Wednesday and found to have grade 2 and 3 pyloric ulcers. He has started on gastrogard and vet recommended he is on full dose for 2 months as pyloric area harder to treat. He is also on pronutrin(which he is being very picky about) as recommended by the vet.

At the moment he is completely unrideable as the second you produce tack he is ready to explode. I know it will take a while for him to get over this and I am just giving him some excercise in hand at the mo. Just need some success stories as at the moment I feel I will never see him back as he was. Anyone experienced this type of ulcer before and got over them?

Thanks for reading
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Mine had pyloric ulcers and was put on GG which made a small difference. Then put on sucralflate which treats stomach and hind gut saw some improvement. Vet advised RiteTrac for post treatment which within 48 hours I had my horse back. It's expensive but v good. Look at the ulcer paper by Dr Ridgeway as very formative.

You need to sort out diet. Low starch, low sugar. Lots of adlib hay and ensure your horse has access to good turnout and forage at ALL times.
 
Thank you FHB...

He is on fibre only diet....although he does have hifi light which has a small amount of molasses in so I will swap that for a molasses free I think. He is turned out by day and ad lib hay at night. Vet has suggested pronutrin but he doesn't like it and leaves most of it...wish I could explain that I am trying to help. Will defo look at rite trac.... Thanks for giving me hope!
 
Mine had a lot of grade 1 and grade 2 ulcers. The GG didnt work the first time because he came off it straight away instead of cut down, a few weeks later he was very grumpy again so we done another month of full and a month of half, seems to have done the trick.

Feed makes a big difference, ad lib hay is a must. I put hay on the floor as best for them and put simple system lucie pellets on it and in his ball with a lucie brick. His main feed is Top Spec comprehensive balancer and cool conditioning cubes, low in starch and sugar and doesnt need loads of it with alfa a molasses free, he didnt do to well last winter with weight when he was on calm and condition but has looked great all this winter.

I give him the protexin 'quick fix' for when he is wormed and the gut balancer is good but the balancer has a probiotic in. The quick fix noticeably helped last month when wormed. The acid ease might help.

I am still looking for a supplement for him to ease the acid around feeding, we think he has indigestion.

Is your insurance covering the treatment?
 
I would consider giving a pre and probiotic to help gut function. Yea sacc and brewers yeast should cover that. Mine literally gets a small amount of Coolstance, fast fibre, handful of readigrass, micronised linseed, YS, BY and forageplus winter balancer. As he can chomp his hay in 2 hours he has his hay split in 3 nets with teeny tiny holes so he has hay all night.
 
JoClark said:
Mine had a lot of grade 1 and grade 2 ulcers. The GG didnt work the first time because he came off it straight away instead of cut down, a few weeks later he was very grumpy again so we done another month of full and a month of half, seems to have done the trick.

Feed makes a big difference, ad lib hay is a must. I put hay on the floor as best for them and put simple system lucie pellets on it and in his ball with a lucie brick. His main feed is Top Spec comprehensive balancer and cool conditioning cubes, low in starch and sugar and doesnt need loads of it with alfa a molasses free, he didnt do to well last winter with weight when he was on calm and condition but has looked great all this winter.

I give him the protexin 'quick fix' for when he is wormed and the gut balancer is good but the balancer has a probiotic in. The quick fix noticeably helped last month when wormed. The acid ease might help.

I am still looking for a supplement for him to ease the acid around feeding, we think he has indigestion.

Is your insurance covering the treatment?
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Thanks Jo. Yes insurance is covering the treatment thankfully. There are so many supplements around its hard to know where to begin isn't it?
 
Gastroplus worked wonders on my horse. Deborah from Equinescience is really helpful and always has time to talk things through. My horse went from a weaving v unhappy boy with issues over food caused by the ulcers to being much happier and calmer with 24hrs. He had the months pack and is now on the gut maintenance. The gastroplus is much cheaper than gastroguard.
 
Mine was the same - grade 2 pyloric. A month of GG, with antibiotics & the stuff to coat the ulcers made no difference whatsoever on rescope. A month on gastroplus made no diff, then he had a month on a special GP formula, which also made no diff. Had the equine communicator talk to him, & started him on some odds n ends readily available from any supermarket. Two weeks later - he's a hell of a lot better. Improves every day. Went on his first hack for 5 months this afternoon. He has been unwell for over 18 months. He is sooooooo much better & I'm astonished as I was seriously beginning to consider PTS as he's been looking so fed up with himself.

There IS hope, altho I wouldn't have believed it 3 weeks ago! And over the past 18 months, we've tried every supplement under the sun.

T x
 
catembi said:
Mine was the same - grade 2 pyloric. A month of GG, with antibiotics & the stuff to coat the ulcers made no difference whatsoever on rescope. A month on gastroplus made no diff, then he had a month on a special GP formula, which also made no diff. Had the equine communicator talk to him, & started him on some odds n ends readily available from any supermarket. Two weeks later - he's a hell of a lot better. Improves every day. Went on his first hack for 5 months this afternoon. He has been unwell for over 18 months. He is sooooooo much better & I'm astonished as I was seriously beginning to consider PTS as he's been looking so fed up with himself.

There IS hope, altho I wouldn't have believed it 3 weeks ago! And over the past 18 months, we've tried every supplement under the sun.

T x
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Thank you... I know it's early days but his behaviour was so extreme just prior to diagnosis I am finding it hard to imagine him normal ever again!

I have 2 months of gg before rescope...apparently pyloric take longer to respond. I am willing to try anything tho...do you mind asking which things you found helped?
 
kinnygirl1 said:
Thank you FHB...

He is on fibre only diet....although he does have hifi light which has a small amount of molasses in so I will swap that for a molasses free I think. He is turned out by day and ad lib hay at night. Vet has suggested pronutrin but he doesn't like it and leaves most of it...wish I could explain that I am trying to help. Will wdefo look at rite trac.... Thanks for giving me hope!
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One of mine hated Pronutrin as well I found mixing with speedibeet was the best way to get it down him .
 
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