Ulcers?

Nevkai

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Hello I really need someone’s opinion on this or just to see if someone has experienced similar. I haven’t had my mare long I got her end of winter last year about mid march.
For a few weeks she was fine with grooming and tack. Then she started pinning her ears when I was grooming, saddling or girthing, people just told me she was just working herself due to her being young so I let it go, the reactions weren’t aggressive.
When I was riding her she would go hollow on her back which I put down as inexperience, again due to her being young and green.
After 5-10mins of riding she would begin grinding her teeth, my first thought was pain, so I booked a massage person and saddle fitter.
she had a lot of tension in her back and I got a new saddle fitted.
I can’t remember if the bruxism stopped after her massage or not but I went on a hack with other ppl and when they were ahead of her she would fling her head up constantly and grind her teeth.
So then I put it down as stress.
Coming into summer, completely different horse, filled out nicely, loads of muscle, was putting her head down lovely in trot and canter, no nastiness towards tack or grooming.
I can’t remember how long for but I remember starting to use 1 bottle of ponease ulc maintanence maybe in April finished it start of may I think, cuz I thought it could be ulcers.
Btw during all this time I’ve had her she’s been out 24/7 not stabled once.
So yes absolutely lovely all of summer.
Now we’ve come back into winter, she’s changed again.
I think around October she started to pin her ears again at tack was going hollow and rushing when asked to trot.
Moving away from mounting block.
When I was tacking her up at my old yard in October/November time she put her ears back slightly and tried to nip a bit as I tightened girth.
I moved yard due to her weight as there was a lot of grass at the other yard and I knew during winter I wouldn’t be able to hack her out due to the weather, so basically she would just eat and eat, she was pilling the weight on.
At the new yard she was stabled for most of the time due to weather and ppl at the yard not wanting to put there horses out. So she was stuck in stable all day which I didn’t agree with at all.
She can’t go out by herself cuz she stresses herself out.
My mare had went from being out 24/7 to being stuck in a stable all day.
Which for any horse will stress them out.
While she was at this yard the reactions started to get worse nipping turned into biting me, other ppl or the stable door, she’s cow kicked a few times, and started pinning her ears right back. I started feeling along her back and no reaction.
Feeling under her belly where the girth sits and no reaction, then feeling a bit further down her belly and her ears started to go back, she hasn’t tried to bite when I’ve touched her with my hands but doesn’t look happy when I do.
I saw from a horse massager/chiro thats there’s point on a horse u can “check for ulcers” idk how true this is but I thought I’d give it a go.
So I checked the front gut and zero reaction.
Checked the hind gut and she really aggressively reacted, I have never seen her react like that to me touching her in that spot before.
But it’s only on that side the right hind that she reacts rlly bad I checked the left hind and she pinned her ears but didn’t swing round and try to bite or kick.
I have stopped riding her but last time I rode her she bucked going into her canter, she has never bucked when I’ve rode her before, started grinding her teeth again, putting her head right up in trot. Not standing at the mounting block anymore so I have someone hold her while I get on and she tries to bite the person holding her. But once I’m on the ears go forward and the biting stops.
I’ve noticed she’s not eating as much hay as normal she used to demolish her haynet within 4 hours (slow feeder) and is now leaving some at bottom of haynet and leaving some on floor after being stabled for 10-12 hours. She’s not drinking much water ik this time of year they don’t but normally she is a good drinker.
I’ve moved yards again ik not good for her stress but I had to get her away from that yard no turn out is absolutely ridiculously.
At the new yard she gets turned out during the day and stabled at night during winter and out all summer.
Can someone please share their opinions about this it will help a lot.
It’s really stressing me out and I don’t know what to think everyone is telling me something different and im just sick.
 
Quite likely stress related ulcers but you won’t know unless you scope.
Hopefully once her management improves things will settle down.
 
Quite likely stress related ulcers but you won’t know unless you scope.
Hopefully once her management improves things will settle down.
Thank u for replying.
Yeah I’m gonna get her scoped
I’ve been thinking it’s stress related ulcers cuz of all the change happening recently but everyone’s been saying it’s this it’s that, oh well it can’t be ulcers cuz so and so. And I’m honestly sick of it she’s the sweetest thing and I don’t want her in pain. People have said that I’ll waste my money scoping her and blah blah, but they aren’t around her 24/7 they don’t know what she’s like they just see a young TB mare and label her as a “typical moody mare”.
Anyways like u said I’ll not know unless I scope her. It might be it might not be.
 
What do u recommend I do coming into winter seasons cuz that’s the time she’s starts getting stressy and bitey
I've got a little cob who doesn't do winter well. He's just not a huge hay eater so once the grass goes he gets tetchy.

Apart from ad lib hay he also gets really decent sized bucket feeds. Mainly chaff but I know that fills him up. He likes fibre blocks so gets them too and stays on a gut supplement.
 
Is she insured? If so you have to scope if you want the company to pay out, and if it is ulcers then they will need ro rescope to look for improvement etc.

I’ve got a moody mare too and we are considering ulcers for her but first the vet has scanned her ovaries to check for issues…we are about to try a trial of regumate for her hormones. If that doesn’t change anything then we will scope next, with mares it’s always worth checking ovaries etc too. Mine isn’t as grumpy as yours though. It’s also possible it’s several things not just one x
 
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