Unbelievable......IMO!!!

Erm, daisychain, where did i say i'd get the vet out every 5 minutes?! but getting one out initially, to determine accurately the extent of the damage, is essential imho.
i've rehabbed written-off horses too, i know that a tendon injury doesn't have to be the end of the horse's life, as long as you'll give it enough time and be really sensible about limiting strenuous exercise etc.
agree with dieseldog, really hope no-one buys the horse. very sad for him, maybe she'll give him away to someone optimistic, caring and patient...
 
Mike007 said:
No dealer can afford to throw money at a horse, for no return. If the horse is not suffering to an unreasonable extent,and a vet is not going to be able to assist the animal, what does it matter exactly where the lameness is. Just rest it.
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I dont know whether to laugh at that comment or not :rolleyes:
 
i wouldn't laugh, it's not funny. :( :(
if the horse is worth diddly when lame, then the dealer CAN afford to "throw money at" the horse, because there is a very good chance that there will be a return...
How do you know the vet is "not going to be able to assist" the animal?!
"Just rest it", if the horse has for example a tendon sheath infection, could = shoot it next week, whereas if a vet had seen it quickly and treated it, it would have made a full recovery...
"wait and see" is really not the best option in every lameness case... :( :( :(
 
sounds very low on morals, as shes admitted she has no idea why its lame (for a week!!) and has no intention of getting the vet out!

what sort of person would pay nearly 6k for that sort of risk?
 
I would be surprised if the owner couldnt tell if there was an infection. It would be pretty obvious why and where the horse was lame. And why should we assume that this person wouldnt get the vet in for somthing like that. I would guess that this is one of those hard to pinpoint lamenesses. To what extent are you going to investigate?A full lameness workup? At least the vendor is not hiding the fact and if someone was interested it would be up to them to pay to investigate it.There are plenty of horses on the market which are basicly lame, usualy the vendors are more keen to cover up this.
 
mike, i'm sorry, but lameness can often be incredibly difficult to pinpoint. sometimes it's difficult to tell which leg is affected, even... due to referred pain, compensation, etc. also, an infection can present with identical symptoms (pain, heat, swelling) to a tendon injury, for example. it really isn't often that simple... if it was, we wouldn't sometimes have to spend hundreds of pounds on lameness workups with progressive nerve blocks, or even more on MRI scans, gamma scintigraphy scans, etc etc. i'm not saying these are always necessary, god forbid, but to assume that this person knows what's up with the horse after it being lame for a week (as i think was said), and to think that it's fine for someone to try to sell a lame horse, makes my mind boggle!
poor horse. i sincerely hope she gives him to someone who will spend a bit of money to put him right, if possible.
 
Also, how can anyone tell within one week that this lameness is one of those that are hard to diagnose and there is no point in trying?

I think there are some sensible points in this thread, e.g. some lamenesses are very difficult to diagnose, some owners are experienced and can figure out what is wrong with a horse, sometimes the best thing is time off, etc. but I don't see how any apply to this case (at least not from the information available).
 
I am well aware of the miriad ways a horse can go lame. I just find it odd that so many people are assuming that this person is neglecting the animal by not getting a vet in when we dont know the facts. And as for selling a lame horse, they arent hiding the fact . Perhaps they dont have enough turnout to rest it ? Who knows!
 
they have admitted the reason they haven't got the vet is purely because they don't want to spend money on it.... Not because they have a good idea what it is, or rest will cure. Purely they don't want to get the vet. Don't know how people could defend it!
 
Mike007 said:
No dealer can afford to throw money at a horse, for no return. If the horse is not suffering to an unreasonable extent,and a vet is not going to be able to assist the animal, what does it matter exactly where the lameness is. Just rest it.
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i'm quite amazed by the amount of people who wouldn't call a vet for lameness and would just 'rest' the horse. i know everyone is entitled to their opinion etc, but doesn't the fact a horse is lame indicate there is pain somewhere? so, there is suffering. and we don't know how much, or whether it will improve, unless we ask a medical expert (vet)... i'm not the richest person in the world, and also not a fan of vet's prices (after paying £75 last week for a bottle of shampoo for my stupid shetland)... but i think they are an essential part of horse ownership.

also, the person in the advert hasn't called a vet, so we can't assume a vet wouldn't be able to assist... perhaps a vet could come out and pinpoint exactly what's wrong and fix it?

i think if the ad person was knowledgeable as everyone seems to be assuming, and isn't getting the vet out, it's because they think it's something quite major/expensive/difficult etc. which, to me, is all the more reason to get the vet out...

poor horse. i hope he finds a nice home/gets fixed etc. xxx
 
clipcloppop said:
also, the person in the advert hasn't called a vet, so we can't assume a vet wouldn't be able to assist... perhaps a vet could come out and pinpoint exactly what's wrong and fix it?

i think if the ad person was knowledgeable as everyone seems to be assuming, and isn't getting the vet out, it's because they think it's something quite major/expensive/difficult etc. which, to me, is all the more reason to get the vet out...
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2 very good points
 
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