Uncaring Yard Owner

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whiteclover

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ive moved yards thinking that being by the sea would be beneficial for his breathing however, hes been put in a field with a pony that chases him. He has copd and a heave line. Hes got worse recently he jumped out of his field (he was on his own) to go in with the herd, however, this pony keeps chasing him making his breathig worse. Ive told the yard owners and said can he go back into his paddock with another pony due to his breathing problem. Im really annoyed with the yard owners. What do I do? He cant go back into his paddock as hell jump it again. How uncaring can they be. She didnt reply when I asked about him having company in his paddock. I feel like not paying my livery bills howi can they get away with this?
 
She is probably hoping you will do her a favor and leave!:rolleyes:

She gave you an alternative of a separate paddock, or the herd, your pony clearly isn't too bothered or would have jumped out (seeing as he jumped in).

How long have you been there? The herd may still be sorting out pecking order.
 
A week:eek: and moved in and out of the herd field.........No wonder they haven't settled and I doubt the YO is uncaring, but is just sick of requests!
 
A week isn't long enough to settle with a herd.

In YO position I would probs be the same. Let him have a gallop and settle, running in open air won't really hurt him, he'll just get out of puff and slow down.

If you let them get sorted out now they will most likely be fine.

If you keep separating him and stressing him and being in/out with the others, the awkward first stage will drag on for ages and become a big issue.

Let them sort themselves out and try to think practically :)
 
I think you sound quite stressed at the moment, probably due to moving and the normal herd behaviour when you introduce someone new, always a worry for all concerned. It might be just as worrying for the owner of the pony thats chasing yours, to see hers flying about after him .
Hopefully itll all settle down, its still early doors with the new mix in the herd
If you eventually want him with them you might need to ride it out or go for the smaller paddock with a mate.:o
 
"She is probably hoping you will do her a favor and leave!"

That's neither understanding or helpful !! The op sounds upset and worried about her horse, no need for snidey comments
 
OP - Give it a chance, perhaps YO thinks the chasing will stop and all will be well soon. Its horrible moving and you are probably feeling sick right now..but give it time, at this point it doesn't sound like an uncaring YO....give them a bit longer before you make your mind up.

Hope pony is ok soon.
 
Op can you ask the other liveries if this pony usually chases others around, secondly you are the customer and your paying for a service.

You do sound stressed and so does your horse, the YO should be looking into the situation for you not ignoring what's happening.
 
OP does seem stressed and upset. I understand because watching your pony with his condition is hard. But he does have to settle in and it's probably more painful for you to watch than him doing it. This is the nature of horses. YO may not have a pony that can be taken away from the main herd to keep yours company. That pony may get stressed. Even with your pony's condition, in the long run it may be better for him to get over this settling in stage and be a part of the herd.

It's very difficult for you as owner but also difficult for YO. She can't put the needs of one before the needs of many who are also paying customers and you have to see it that way. You aren't the only paying customer. I would be peeved if I came in to find my horse stressed because he'd been removed from his established herd. Especially if I'm paying the same money. In these situations you really do have to look at it from all angles and not just yours.

Your pony may not settle. Then you have to really think about what's best for him in the context of many if you catch my drift. Is the ocean air beneficial if your pony doesn't settle or is he better off in a place he settles without the ocean air. This will sound crass but it's not everyone else's problem pony has issues. It don't mean it to be harsh. It's just that you have to weigh up all the circumstances to come to the best decision for your pony. Getting mad at YO, being mad at other pony, not wanting to pay YO is only a distraction. But when we're upset we don't tend to think things through.

So try looking at the situation through a fresh pair of eyes. Ask yourself the following: Can I handle the settle in period? Is the ocean air really going to be beneficial in this situation? Can I also remember other owners want their ponies settled and happy? Then you have to make a decision.

Best of luck as it's not easy I'm sure.

Terri
 
The mare is known to do this. My vet said he shouldnt be running around in his condition but I accept your comments apart from the snidey one.
 
Seriously White Clover, if he's that bad he won't be running around. I'm on a big yard & most are turned out in herds, we also have a few with copd & other problems. We find, without exception, that they'll run around to the level they are happy with & no more regardless of what the rest of the gang are doing. Of course teh exception would be if they were in fear of their life, but that won't be the case here & it wouldn't have carried on this long if it was! Under sadddle is obviously a different scenario as riders may try to make a horse carry on past the stage they are happy with (not saying you would do that).

I agree with the others who say you need to relax & let them sort it out, I think I suggested before that it might be worth you putting him on full livery for a short period so you didn't see the things that are obviously distressing you even though they are normal horse behaviours & I still think this would be a good idea. I also agree with those who say that they wouldn't be happy if one of mine was taken out of an established herd to keep yours company in a paddock, if you have that big a problem then I'd suggest you buy a suitable companion so that you aren't relying on others.
 
Equilibrium Ireland said:
OP does seem stressed and upset. I understand because watching your pony with his condition is hard. But he does have to settle in and it's probably more painful for you to watch than him doing it. This is the nature of horses. YO may not have a pony that can be taken away from the main herd to keep yours company. That pony may get stressed. Even with your pony's condition, in the long run it may be better for him to get over this settling in stage and be a part of the herd.

It's very difficult for you as owner but also difficult for YO. She can't put the needs of one before the needs of many who are also paying customers and you have to see it that way. You aren't the only paying customer. I would be peeved if I came in to find my horse stressed because he'd been removed from his established herd. Especially if I'm paying the same money. In these situations you really do have to look at it from all angles and not just yours.

Your pony may not settle. Then you have to really think about what's best for him in the context of many if you catch my drift. Is the ocean air beneficial if your pony doesn't settle or is he better off in a place he settles without the ocean air. This will sound crass but it's not everyone else's problem pony has issues. It don't mean it to be harsh. It's just that you have to weigh up all the circumstances to come to the best decision for your pony. Getting mad at YO, being mad at other pony, not wanting to pay YO is only a distraction. But when we're upset we don't tend to think things through.

So try looking at the situation through a fresh pair of eyes. Ask yourself the following: Can I handle the settle in period? Is the ocean air really going to be beneficial in this situation? Can I also remember other owners want their ponies settled and happy? Then you have to make a decision.

Best of luck as it's not easy I'm sure.

Terri
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Agree with this. Well said. I'm one of the wicked breed known as YO's and unfortunately its not possible to please everyone all of the time: especially when you've got a new pony on the yard and (thinking from YO's perspective) its already jumped out of the place where it was put (OK albeit unwisely, but there was probably no-where else for it to go esp as it was new and YO was maybe quite rightly trying to maintain some bio-security by isolating a new pony).

Think its very early days yet: but IF OP isn't happy she always has the option to move & find somewhere else if where she's at doesn't suit either her or pony.
 
Look at it from the YO's point of view. Your pony is new. All new ponies need a good month to settle into a herd and there is always running around and chasing for a while. You have offered the OP a seperate field but the pony jumped out. The OP wants another pony put in with her pony, but then you would have to upset your other liveries, as they wouldn't be able to take their horse out of the field unless they brought the new pony in as it would run around or jump out... So its not that easy and its not as though you hadn't given an alternative..

The pony won't be running around 24/7 being chased if he learns to stay at the edge of the herd until accepted. Then he will gradually work his way in. He will be fine, honestly!
 
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