Unexpected Arrival of Foal - registration ?

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Hi I wonder if anyone could offer advice. I bought my 3 yr old mare in May from the breeder (well known dressage bod). She was getting very fat, but as she was turned away on grass I thought she was just a porker ! However 2 weeks ago I came down to the stables to find she had produced a beautiful filly foal in the night. I am still in shock !!!
I am wondering if there is any way I can get the foal registered. It seems she was the result of a fling with a 2 year old colt who jumped into their field & as such is not a registered stallion, & has since been gelded. I have managed to get a copy of his passport (KWPN) and the Mare is an Oldenburg registered AES but of course there is no covering certificate. I have heard that you can use DNA but would this be worth doing and would any breed society accept it anyway as the ex-stallion has not been approved etc. It would be a shame not to be able to register her as she has good breeding lines. Any thoughts/ideas welcome.
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I don't know much about sport horse breeding but with ponies, you wouldn't be able to register her with her real dad as the sire.

However, again, with ponies, this wouldn't stop you breeding from her in the future.
 
Thats the way to breed a foal - think of all the stress she saved you!!
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I dont see why you couldnt regiuster her with someone like SHB. As long as you have the DNA to prove her sire is the colt, she is at least eligible to go in the basic register, and with her pedigree recorded

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Agree with Volatis there :-). That is definetly the best way to go -- and she would get her SHBGB registration/overstamp too at the same time.
 
Yeh, congratulations, you had a foal without sleeping for two weeks in a cold lorry, losing sleep and worrying!!!!!!! Lucky you. Sorry cant help on the registration bit but lovely to get a free foal!
 
You can also register AES but have to have DNA tests done on all 3.

I called them about our mare as she is in foal to our ungraded stallion.
You can register the foal without DNA tests but it will go down as unkown breeding on all sides.
The only way to get the parentage recognised is by DNA testing and then it will be detailed on the foals passport.
It depends on how important having it recorded is to you, we will have the decision to make next year when our foal lands on the ground!!
 
Well congrulations!!!
I think its nice to know "who they are" and if u ever need to sell her then as u said her good breeding will help.
 
Thanks for the advice. I have contacted the AES & they will register the foal. As the mare is already registered and as long as the foal is still at foot I can get the vet to certify she is the mother, therefore just need to DNA test the stallion & foal. Infact the AES have told me that if I could get a vet to verify the father as well they could issue a covering certificate for £10 & avoid DNA testing altogether, but this is not possible in my case as there was more than one stallion on the yard where she was kept.
Has anyone any experience of such a late foal, as a first time and completely unprepared breeder, I am wondering how she will cope with the wet/cold. They are coming in at night anyway and I have managed to get them out every day so far even if just for a few hours. But as the weather gets worse will the foal need a turn out rug, and if so would such a young foal be ok turned out all day if its cold and raining ? She is 3 weeks old on tuesday.
 
I depends on the breeder and the stud book - and their rules on DNA testing - but if father was an ID, the father would have been DNA'd for his foal passport even though later gelded, so the DNA for him would be available for checking.

Otherwise, you need to find the gelding in question and get the owner's consent to have a vet take a DNA sample from him.

As to foal and weather - that's a hard one. I never rug foals but would turn out by day in a field with a shelter shed with such a baby. Plenty of people DO rug foals (although if you do it will cost you a fortune as you'll go through at LEAST 3 in the first 6 months!)
 
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