Unexplained Oedema?

[HufflyPuffly]

Skylla came in with a lumpy, squishy oedema on Tuesday night from the paddock. I can see no cut or nick and there’s nothing obvious she could have bashed herself on, has anyone had this happen before?

Obviously I’m keeping everything crossed it’s not one of the nasty reasons that they can occur. She’s bright in herself, normal temp, eating etc. Just a bit saggy ??.



Hoping it goes down as quickly as it came up!

 

[PapaverFollis]

How old is Skylla? Granny horse got these (in exactly that place) from late teens onwards. Came and went with no explanation. Maybe she changed the way she got up because of general being older stiffness and knocked herself every so often? Maybe. Keep an eye on it but don't stress is my thought.

 

[SEL]

My mare developed a 'boob' (& yes I did describe it like that to the vet) a couple of years ago for no apparent reason. Nothing showed up in bloods, she didn't react to it being poked and it went down again after a few days.

She rolls very, very enthusiastically and without much care as to where she is so we thought maybe she'd somehow knocked herself getting up. Hasn't come back so hopefully Skylla's will be something innocent and just disappear too.

 

[HufflyPuffly]

How old is Skylla? Granny horse got these (in exactly that place) from late teens onwards. Came and went with no explanation. Maybe she changed the way she got up because of general being older stiffness and knocked herself every so often? Maybe. Keep an eye on it but don't stress is my thought.

She'll be 9 this year so not older to be expected weird swelling, and isn't generally prone to it (doesn't get filled legs or anything). Trying not to worry but hard when it's either it will be fine or it could be super serious .

My mare developed a 'boob' (& yes I did describe it like that to the vet) a couple of years ago for no apparent reason. Nothing showed up in bloods, she didn't react to it being poked and it went down again after a few days.

She rolls very, very enthusiastically and without much care as to where she is so we thought maybe she'd somehow knocked herself getting up. Hasn't come back so hopefully Skylla's will be something innocent and just disappear too.

She wasn't particularly muddy but she does lie down and roll, so could have bashed herself that way, just would have thought there would be a mark? Keeping everything crossed it does just go away!

 

[PapaverFollis]

Fingers crossed it's something and nothing. I'm sure the purpose of horses is to ensure that we go grey...

 

[HufflyPuffly]

Fingers crossed it's something and nothing. I'm sure the purpose of horses is to ensure that we go grey...

Thank you, yes they definitely only have one purpose in life to stress us humans out! She does have form for weird injuries or getting in sticky situations, so hopefully it's just another thing on her list of odd injuries...

 

[nikicb]

I can only urge you to get it checked out by your vet and have bloods run if you can't see any reason for it. I don't want to over worry you as it's quite likely not to be anything serious, but this was the first sign of Cassie's lymphoma - a swelling between her front legs/in the girth area. The first vet that saw it said it was due to some sort of trauma, but it continued to get worse and she was seen by another more experienced vet who thought it might be either lymphoma, heart failure or pneumonia. She was admitted and it was diagnosed by running bloods and sampling fluid. Again, I emphasise that I am not saying it can only be those things, but Cassie's swelling looked very innocuous and I thought it might be a reaction to an insect bite.

 

[HufflyPuffly]

I can only urge you to get it checked out by your vet and have bloods run if you can't see any reason for it. I don't want to over worry you as it's quite likely not to be anything serious, but this was the first sign of Cassie's lymphoma - a swelling between her front legs/in the girth area. The first vet that saw it said it was due to some sort of trauma, but it continued to get worse and she was seen by another more experienced vet who thought it might be either lymphoma, heart failure or pneumonia. She was admitted and it was diagnosed by running bloods and sampling fluid. Again, I emphasise that I am not saying it can only be those things, but Cassie's swelling looked very innocuous and I thought it might be a reaction to an insect bite.

No it's what I'm worried about, vet has seen the pictures and will come out to run bloods if it doesn't go down/ gets worse. They're happy for the moment for me to monitor but obviously I'm a bit concerned as I cannot see a visible reason for it . It doesn't look any different this morning, so hoping it will have reduced after her being out today and mooching about...

Sorry I should have put in the first post that I'm in consultation with my vets about it!

 

[nikicb]

No it's what I'm worried about, vet has seen the pictures and will come out to run bloods if it doesn't go down/ gets worse. They're happy for moment for me to monitor but obviously I'm a bit concerned as I cannot see a visible reason for it . It doesn't look any different this morning, so hoping it will have reduced after her being out today and mooching about...

I was reluctant to post as I didn't want it to be scaremongering, but I felt I should. With Cassie the original misdiagnosis didn't make any difference to the outcome, but I really think you would be best to get it checked out just so you know for certain. Good luck, I shall be thinking of you. xxx

 

[HufflyPuffly]

I was reluctant to post as I didn't want it to be scaremongering, but I felt I should. With Cassie the original misdiagnosis didn't make any difference to the outcome, but I really think you would be best to get it checked out just so you know for certain. Good luck, I shall be thinking of you. xxx

No it's right to make people aware, if she's no better tonight I might see if they'll come out to run bloods on Friday. Was Cassie off in any other way? Skylla is bright and cheerful enough, temp is normal, she's eating and toileting fine, also moving fine.

 

[nikicb]

No it's right to make people aware, if she's no better tonight I might see if they'll come out to run bloods on Friday. Was Cassie off in any other way? Skylla is bright and cheerful enough, temp is normal, she's eating and toileting fine, also moving fine.

She was absolutely fine. I left her at my trainer's yard for schooling while I was away for a few days. Coat gleaming, and generally herself. I did have some concerns about her a couple of weeks earlier as she had been reluctant to go into canter, but she had done that before when her saddle needed adjusting, so I booked in to have that done. In retrospect it probably was an early indication, but she was herself in every other respect. I try not to dwell on over analysing it as I don't think anyone could have predicted the outcome, and I don't need to add guilt to my grief. We were at BD camp a month before and she was brilliant and did some great work. x

 

[HufflyPuffly]

She was absolutely fine. I left her at my trainer's yard for schooling while I was away for a few days. Coat gleaming, and generally herself. I did have some concerns about her a couple of weeks earlier as she had been reluctant to go into canter, but she had done that before when her saddle needed adjusting, so I booked in to have that done. In retrospect it probably was an early indication, but she was herself in every other respect. I try not to dwell on over analysing it as I don't think anyone could have predicted the outcome, and I don't need to add guilt to my grief. We were at BD camp a month before and she was brilliant and did some great work. x

Well if it doesn't start to improve the vet will definitely be out! xx

 

[nikicb]

Well if it doesn't start to improve the vet will definitely be out! xx

I am sure it will be nothing serious. Keeping everything crossed for you that it disappears soon. xx

 

[Carrottom]

My gelding had something that looked similar a couple of years ago. I think the fluid was a reaction to insect bites that then drained downwards to the lowest place. We had an unseasonably mild day and I think he pawed the ground before rolling and disturbed some kind of nest, then rolled on it and got bitten.

 

[laura_nash]

Mine's another that had a random one about 3 years ago, never before or since (I've had him 12 years). His was about a week after he'd been very ill, respiratory infection, but he was fully recovered by then and I don't know if it was related. No cause found and it resolved after 3 days with no treatment.

 

[HufflyPuffly]

Yeah it seems to be something of nothing or very serious, which does nothing for my stress levels!

However, I think it looks reduced tonight, especially from the front!

 

[nikicb]

Mine's another that had a random one about 3 years ago, never before or since (I've had him 12 years). His was about a week after he'd been very ill, respiratory infection, but he was fully recovered by then and I don't know if it was related. No cause found and it resolved after 3 days with no treatment.

That would fit with the possibility that Cassie could have had pneumonia, although that was discounted as she didn't have a raised temperature and the bloods didn't fit. But obviously a respiratory infection could lead to this.

 

[nikicb]

Yeah it seems to be something of nothing or very serious, which does nothing for my stress levels!

However, I think it looks reduced tonight, especially from the front!
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Definitely looking reduced. xx