Unhappy horse - back/teeth? Long and quite rambly. Sorry!!

Christmas Crumpet

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I bought a 7 yr old ex racehorse earlier this year and have had him for about 2 months. When I first got him he seemed ok apart from hanging to the left quite dramatically when he cantered. He got kicked quite badly on his off hind down the top bit of his cannon bone and was off for 2 weeks. I had the vet out twice in that time firstly to check that he was just lame because the bone was bruised and wound healing nicely. He was fine then. Then had the vet out again a week later to vet another horse I was selling and asked him to have a look at his teeth which he did. Teeth had obviously never been done so by rights now should be a lot better.

Since that time he has started doing another thing which usually only happens trotting up hills although some days can happen whilst trotting along the road (funnily enough never on the grass). He lifts his head up and turns it a bit to the left and it feels as though he is running not trotting. Anyway - got the back lady out who said he is very tight all along his off side (he slightly tweaked a tendon a few years ago and was fired). She says he is tight because of that and also because of having a badly fitted saddle previously. That was about a month ago. We've had the saddler out again and have hopefully found a saddle that fits him brilliantly but he is still doing this thing. He finds trotting up hills very hard work and sometimes when trotting again it feels as though he's running (although not very fast).

He was doing the head thing trotting up hills yesterday and being a bit odd but we finished on a good note because I trotted him to the village and back and it was a good working trot which felt powerful and positive like he was using himself much better. The kind of trot I like and the kind I'd like to see him do more.

What I'm wondering is whether his back is still hurting, his teeth are still wrong but in a different way since the vet has been, whether there is something wrong with his hind end. I am getting quite down about it all and frustrated. The annoying thing is that riding out in company he hardly does the head thing at all if at all.

Could it be a total lack of schooling that makes him do it or is he still in pain? I wonder if he's not used to trotting up hills and perhaps I should walk up them for the time being to get him used to the long, steep Dorset hills!!

If anyone has any ideas I'd be more than grateful to hear them. Back lady coming again tomorrow so will ask her if I can ride him for her to show her what he looks like doing the head thing. Its quite hard to explain!!
 
I would reccomend you get an osteo (is your back lady this)out to have a quick look (cost £45 approx) Teeth problems can do so much as i found out last year.
I have probs for months

Dont panic too much until he has had a full MOT!
 
I thought that by having the vet out, saddler out, back lady out I had covered all avenues.

I am seriously frustrated and cross!! I have just turned down a lovely horse I'd been asked to hunt for a season and then sell on because I want to concentrate on the racehorse. Bit pointless if he's broken!!
 
I would ask your Vet to come out again to have a look as sometimes the horse can compensate by not moving thru the back when something somewhere else is hurting, as you say he has previously had an injury , so your vet would probably be the best person to advise- if he can rule everything else out maybe he could then refer him to a Physio or something. I'm only saying this as I've been thru something similar with mine! good luck though-
 
is the back lady an osteo though as they are different to 'back people??"
my horse saw a 'back lady' who was useless but the osteo found the problem straight away and 2 visits and he was fine
 
My vet describes ex-racehorses as onions!! You solve one health issue and the horse then reveals another problem!

My TB didn't come to me directly out of racing, but has still taken 18 months to really come right from previous back, saddle fit and shoeing problems. Hopefully yours won't take this long!

It is well worth getting to the bottom of any niggling issues as early as possible, so regular visits from your back lady would be a good idea, until he improves.
 
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Back lady is a horse physiotherapist. Any good?!!! She is pretty astute.

I have only exercised him since I've got him and so am starting the schooling sessions this evening and hopefully having first lesson next week. There's quite a lot to get sorted before hunting starts!!

Will update tomorrow once back lady has been again.
 
What's he like on a trot up? Is he level behind? And on the flexion test?

when a horse has no topline (typical of a lot of ex-racers) trotting up hill is much easier than walking. If you really want to make them work, you should walk them up and down hills (down especially) making sure that they walk as slowly as possible and not letting them run on the forehand. Going downhill I think is he has a weak topline his will be more inclined to try and jog.

The symptoms you are describing could be so many things from a physical problem to a schooling issue. Best to try and work out if it is physical first. Have you watched him eat - is he quidding at all?
 
I have an ex racehorse and its taken a while to iron out all the problems and we still going with a couple. please bear with him, remember they have such hard lives as youngsters where everything is thrown at them and they often have back probs due to the overdevolpment of there muscles. I know its a bit out there but have you considered a horse/animal communicator , they can often pick up very subtle signs that others may miss and can be very beneficial. you would be best finding one that is reccomended by someone, or the other thing you could try is a sports massage therapist for horses. horses rarely do these things just for the hell of it so I would say there is still something going on. good luck kx
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did you get him vetted when you bought him?

Can you get someone to trot him up for you so you can see what his movement is like behind and hear if there are 4 even footfalls?

Also, can you do a flexion test to see how quickly he recovers? You need to hold the leg flexed as high as possible for 1 minute and then immediately trot up. Depending on age, it shouldnt take more than a few strides for him to go back to normal - if he were a youngster I would expect the trot up to be back to normal almost immediately.

Does he tend to lean on the bit a lot?
 
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