Unique bar bit "made in England" "never rust"

[RachelleAline17]

Good evening all,

Whilst rummaging through the old barn at out stables, I came across a rather unique-looking bar bit with interesting shanks that I have never seen before (see image). It has a bit of lever action, and the bar measures 13,5cm without including the width of the shanks. It is stamped "made in England" and "never rust", but other than that, there are no markings or brand names anywhere.

I have searched online tirelessly, and have found no information nor any other bit that resembles this one.

Who can help me out? What kind of bit is this? What sport/work is it used for? What company produces/produced it? Is it still in production? How old might this bit be approximately? I really hope someone recognizes this model, because I would like to learn more about it! I do not ride with a bar, nor have I ever and I never intend to, but I find the craftsmanship of it absolutely fascinating!

 

[Sleipnir]

Looks like a driving bit, and I have a feeling I have seen these before - just can't put my finger on it and remember precisely.

 

[chaps89]

I have a feeling that @Cortez or @Snowfilly might be able to help?

 

[Fieldlife]

I have a feeling that @Cortez or @Snowfilly might be able to help?

Or @cremedemonthe ?

 

[rabatsa]

I would say that it is a fancy mullen mouth pelham.

 

[The Xmas Furry]

Looks a bit like an ornate Liverpool?
The ornate ring on it is baffling me, as it is others tho.

 

[Keith_Beef]

Is the metal magnetic? If so, this would suggest stainless steel, so later than 1913.

Could it be upside down in the photo? I.e., hanging by the curb chain?

 

[RachelleAline17]

Is the metal magnetic? If so, this would suggest stainless steel, so later than 1913.

Could it be upside down in the photo? I.e., hanging by the curb chain?

It is not upside down. The reins would be attached to the hole at 90° turn at the bottom. I haven't tried to see if it is magnetic.

I have, since posting this original thread, found a similar bit (no joke, it has taken me 2 afternoons of googling...). It seems to be a Spanish Western style baroque bit. It is referred to as "S Shape and Rose". All the versions I have found since, are all made very differently than the one I have.

Thanks for your response! I will try a magnet tomorrow!

 

[RachelleAline17]

Since having posted this original thread, I continued my search (2nd afternoon... I couldn't let it go ?) and have finally found a similar bit! It seems to be a Spanish Western style baroque bar bit, and it is referred to as "S Shape and Rose". Though the shape of the shanks are the same, all versions I have found of this bit since, are all made very differently than the one I have. Now that I know the model and its purpose, I wish to find out more about the company that produced it, and discover its approximate age. Does anyone know which English companies stamped their bits with "never rust"?

Thanks for all your help so far! I greatly appreciate all the help during my neurotic search (I can't let go of things until I figure it out ??).

 

[Keith_Beef]

Aha,

Since having posted this original thread, I continued my search (2nd afternoon... I couldn't let it go ?) and have finally found a similar bit! It seems to be a Spanish Western style baroque bar bit, and it is referred to as "S Shape and Rose". Though the shape of the shanks are the same, all versions I have found of this bit since, are all made very differently than the one I have. Now that I know the model and its purpose, I wish to find out more about the company that produced it, and discover its approximate age. Does anyone know which English companies stamped their bits with "never rust"?

Thanks for all your help so far! I greatly appreciate all the help during my neurotic search (I can't let go of things until I figure it out ??).

Aha!
https://www.tariqindustries.com/detail.php?live=1_2_0_2

 

[Gloi]

Aha,

Aha!
https://www.tariqindustries.com/detail.php?live=1_2_0_2

Keith, is this just the bit , the link is full of warning messages so I haven't opened it.

 

[Keith_Beef]

Keith, is this just the bit , the link is full of warning messages so I haven't opened it.

It's a page to the product, which is described as "S Shape & Rose Horse Bit Traditional Friesian Rose Bit use for Driving and showing. German Silver mullen mouth, with Fixed Cheeks moveable cheeks".

Now that I'm looking on a decent sized screen, not my phone, I can see that it's the same as the one that OP had found in post #9.

The same product, with the same reference number and same description is also being sold through another window. Even the URL is the same apart from the host name...

http://horsehillintl.com/detail.php?live=1_2_0_2

 

[Lamehorses]

No idea on the bit, but friends clever husband turned a very similar one into a loo roll holder ?

 

[RachelleAline17]

No idea on the bit, but friends clever husband turned a very similar one into a loo roll holder ?

Hahahaha, I was honestly contemplating doing the same! ?

 

[Gloi]

It's a page to the product, which is described as "S Shape & Rose Horse Bit Traditional Friesian Rose Bit use for Driving and showing. German Silver mullen mouth, with Fixed Cheeks moveable cheeks".

Now that I'm looking on a decent sized screen, not my phone, I can see that it's the same as the one that OP had found in post #9.

The same product, with the same reference number and same description is also being sold through another window. Even the URL is the same apart from the host name...

http://horsehillintl.com/detail.php?live=1_2_0_2

It warned me I had to be over 18 to see it.

 

[Keith_Beef]

It warned me I had to be over 18 to see it.

I don't know why it would do that. I got no warnings, and there's certainly nothing unusual about either of those two websites; they are just a company in Pakistan that sells:

• German Silver Horse Bits
• English Western Stirrups
• Spanish Type Spurs
• Mole Traps & Curry Comb
• English & Fancy Bridles
• Farrier Tools
• Halters
• Riding Gloves & Stud Girth
• Saddle Pads Blankets [sic]
• Horse Riding Chaps
• Decoration Horse Stirrups