unsound? (video)

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Just want opinions on this, I can't make up my mind. He hasn't been ridden in 4 months, and has NO muscle along his back so I thought maybe it is more like his back end is not joined to his front end as no muscle/power therefore he is just paddling along. First time he has been sat on in a long time so he is a bit confused.
I am not sure if all that would improve as he builds up?
There is lunging at the end as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDuuv3rqwC0&feature=youtu.be&fb_source=message
 
sorry, looks lame both ridden and lunging although hard to tell where the problem is - ears seem to be back alot and maybe wrong but tail being held to one side (not sure what that means)

Trot up on hard surface should show up more
 
that movement is definitly not just lack of muscle. He looks quite lame all round and does not want to move forward at all and that's why he did the odd canter stride. You need to call the vet out.
 
looks very lame to me: clearly bad fore (at one point it seemed to change leg aswell? but probably from extra stress of one sore side) also hinds looked very 'awkward' may be due to discomfort at front but may be ligament damage? def get a vet out if you can, hope pony feels better x
 
Get an osteopath to take a look at him. Only today I've had my boy fixed. The way he holds his tail to the side tells me there is tension somewhere. In my case it was poll issues, but could be anything... An osteo would find out though! Good luck
 
Thanks everyone, sorry I can't answer the questions as I don't know the answers myself, I just rode him the once, and yes he is a very sweet horse, it is a shame, but he is not mine, I was just confused by him - doesn't take much ;)
 
He does look lame behind to me, bless him, he seems like a sweet chap and certainly a good boy with the horse in the back ground performing his acrobats!!
Worth a visit from a vet like others have said. Good luck
 
He moves a bit like my boy , although to be fair my boy isn't THAT bad , but definitely the head goes up in trot and you sort of get a concertina effect , my boy has got really weak stifles and finds it hard to work from behind , i would always seek professional adivce , but i've been told not to work in circles only on the large outer track and definitely no lunging as this is just compounding the problem , i did notice that he seems to be carrying his tail to one side , so stand him on the level and have a really good look from the back...my advice get a chiro asap cos he's clearly uncomfortable and probably in pain.
 
Certainly lame on 3 legs, I thought the near hind was good. Looking at the tail carriage (which I think is kinked slightly to the right) last time I saw one like one with that many problems it had been over backwards on the concrete.
 
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Agree with previous comments. He's not tracking up right at all. Poor lad. Keep us posted if you find out any more :)
 
I think he is sound. He is overweight and unfit. The skipping through he does in trot is because he is not strong enough to offer the trot that he is being asked for. He needs to be taken much more slowly and probably lunged to begin with in something such as a pessoa, and just hacked out for a while.
 
Firstly I do hope you got permission from the owner to put videos of their horse up asking for opinions as to its soundness:eek:

Secondly, I'm inclined to agree with Wagtail. Horse is fat and unfit but I suspect that given a chance to get back gently into working it would look a whole lot better, especially if the reason for turning it away for four years was physical. Certainly it would not be normal to advise getting on a horse that hadn't been ridden for four years, riding it for some considerable length of time and trotting and cantering it. It seems a nice horse and I feel rather sorry for it. Talk about shock tactics:)
 
Firstly I do hope you got permission from the owner to put videos of their horse up asking for opinions as to its soundness:eek:

Secondly, I'm inclined to agree with Wagtail. Horse is fat and unfit but I suspect that given a chance to get back gently into working it would look a whole lot better, especially if the reason for turning it away for four years was physical. Certainly it would not be normal to advise getting on a horse that hadn't been ridden for four years, riding it for some considerable length of time and trotting and cantering it. It seems a nice horse and I feel rather sorry for it. Talk about shock tactics:)

I also think it is more down to unfitness than any thing else, I would have the fit of the saddle looked at it seems to be rather forward on his shoulder and at times bouncing off his back enough reason for him to feel uncomfortable, it is no likely to have been recently checked if the horse has not been in work.
 
First thing I noticed was the amount of movement from the saddle bouncing up and down. Dare say his problems are bigger than this but I dont think I would be too comfortable trotting with that going on. He looks very long backed , or is the saddle just shoved too far forward ? but long backs are often a little weaker. i would be worried by his way of going ,he looks really uncomfortable poor thing , v honest tho some would have exploded.
 
Firstly I do hope you got permission from the owner to put videos of their horse up asking for opinions as to its soundness:eek:

Secondly, I'm inclined to agree with Wagtail. Horse is fat and unfit but I suspect that given a chance to get back gently into working it would look a whole lot better, especially if the reason for turning it away for four years was physical. Certainly it would not be normal to advise getting on a horse that hadn't been ridden for four years, riding it for some considerable length of time and trotting and cantering it. It seems a nice horse and I feel rather sorry for it. Talk about shock tactics:)

I think you have a reading problem, it most definitely says 4 months in original post!
I do not have permission but I was trying to be persuaded to take it on so I wanted to know. Also the cantering was completely unintentional and I am really not sure where you see my aids to canter?
Your rudeness is not needed, but thank you for opinion on the soundness.
 
I think you have a reading problem, it most definitely says 4 months in original post!
I do not have permission but I was trying to be persuaded to take it on so I wanted to know. Also the cantering was completely unintentional and I am really not sure where you see my aids to canter?
Your rudeness is not needed, but thank you for opinion on the soundness.

Firstly, I agree with Dee; posting a vid of someone else's horse without permission is not on. I get that you want opinions on soundness, but how does this prevent you asking the owner if it's OK?
I also agree that he's unfit. Cantering is easier for a lot of horses than trotting, which is why he's trying to canter. I used to exercise an elderly mare who did that hoppy thing if she wasn't sufficiently warmed up.
As for rudeness.... well... I think you should examine your own sassy little 'attitude' before commenting on anyone else...
 
I find this happens. You get a few posts sensibly replying to a question then the wierd old timers heavy in, pick on an issue that usually implies neglect, complete ignorance of original poster or some other supposedly henious crime (GOSH..posting a video of a nameless brown horse in a featureless menage... how could you!?!? How awful) and then you might as well ignore the next 100 posts of bickering. Takes it from a useful forum to a complete waste of time.
 
From what i can see i'd say lame in Right Fore, could just be me though :)

This was the first thing I noticed

However he is also not right behind which could easily be causing the fore lameness.

I also agree saddle is too far forward, it needs to come back behind the shoulder a good 2 fingers width. He is also lame on the lunge so too me not just lack of fitness
 
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