Unweaned foals thrown over a hedge and abandoned

Disgusting...shoot them for christ's sake if you really can't cope...an awful thing to say but far better than being thrown over a hedge and left to fend for themselves...WTF?? Saying this, the 'travelling community', aka dirty thieving scumbags never cease to amaze me at their cruelty. Sorry if this strikes some people as harsh, or unfair, but all my experiences of these people have been horrific...
 
I just pray that one day, when whover did that is a burden to his or her connections, that they just dump HIM/HER over a hedge - and with luck, nobody finds them! We are a very unpleasant species....
 
There is a public appetite for such stories of cruelty - they are like gold mines for the charities involved as you can post up pics, with exaggerated emotive stories, and the donations come flooding in.
The original owners don't gain - but the charities certainly do.
I wonder what the evidence is that the foals were 'thrown' over the hedge?
And many high value stock are weaned at 4 months...in fact some cobs are used as surrogates so their foals are deliberately weaned from them to allow a high value competition foal to have a foster mum.
I wish HHO would have a better class of journalism.
S :D
 
Shilasdair said:
There is a public appetite for such stories of cruelty - they are like gold mines for the charities involved as you can post up pics, with exaggerated emotive stories, and the donations come flooding in.
The original owners don't gain - but the charities certainly do.
I wonder what the evidence is that the foals were 'thrown' over the hedge?
And many high value stock are weaned at 4 months...in fact some cobs are used as surrogates so their foals are deliberately weaned from them to allow a high value competition foal to have a foster mum.
I wish HHO would have a better class of journalism.
S :D
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This^^^^^.
I also wish some readers were a little more discerning.
 
kittykatcat said:
Disgusting...shoot them for christ's sake if you really can't cope...an awful thing to say but far better than being thrown over a hedge and left to fend for themselves...WTF?? Saying this, the 'travelling community', aka dirty thieving scumbags never cease to amaze me at their cruelty. Sorry if this strikes some people as harsh, or unfair, but all my experiences of these people have been horrific...
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You cant go calling them that!!!! they are an ethnic minorty , pie key pie key do as you likey!!!! its their culture init......
 
Shilasdair said:
There is a public appetite for such stories of cruelty - they are like gold mines for the charities involved as you can post up pics, with exaggerated emotive stories, and the donations come flooding in.
The original owners don't gain - but the charities certainly do.
I wonder what the evidence is that the foals were 'thrown' over the hedge?
And many high value stock are weaned at 4 months...in fact some cobs are used as surrogates so their foals are deliberately weaned from them to allow a high value competition foal to have a foster mum.
I wish HHO would have a better class of journalism.
S :D
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Yes these equine charities are just spongers.... these foal would obviously
done just fine without their help as would most of the so called rescue cases.. and the l travelers are living national treasure who love and respect animals and the settled comunity ....... is it nice in the parellel universe????
 
perfect11s said:
Yes these equine charities are just spongers.... these foal would obviously
done just fine without their help as would most of the so called rescue cases.. and the l travelers are living national treasure who love and respect animals and the settled comunity ....... is it nice in the parellel universe????
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Like, like, like.
 
Yeah, lets just all start throwing foals over hedges so that charities get more exposure - what a jolly good idea...I might even go and slowly drown some lurchers whilst I'm at it, and chuck some kittens on a bonfire (all actually carried out by my lovely local travelling community, who don't actually travel anywhere...certainly not to work, oh, sorry, no, they do travel to our farm to steal diesel and 'scrap' metal, that actually happens to be a vintage piece of machinary which was very sentimental to us...ahem...SLIGHTLY off topic!!!)

Sorry, but to try and make any excuse for this is ridiculous...ok, it's media, it's jounalism, they need to make a good piece of writing, but this hasn't just been made up out of thin air!!!
 
I'm not sure what is wrong with this being reported. I suspect the fact that one of the foals with a suspected broken pelvis may be evidence enough to assume that they were not put on the land via a gate! Ok, so maybe 'thrown' isn't the correct term to be used but from what has been suggested they did not get there via the usual means - ie gate or even as a result of a fence being cut.

I get pretty annoyed with those who stand up for the travelling community when time and time again they carry out pretty despicable acts yet seem to get away with it. The story about the tortured lurcher that someone posted yesterday - that was horrific but at least some justice was served when those responsible were charged for their crime (not a harsh enough charge but better than nothing I suppose). I am not aware of many stories where those from the travelling community are made accountable for their crimes or acts of animal cruelty/neglect. Yet again someone else is having to foot the bill for them being irresponsible.
 
I wander if they might be after volunteers to take in the foals and care for them until they are old enough to go out in the field..

I for one would be interested in helping...
 
SpottyTB said:
I wonder if they might be after volunteers to take in the foals and care for them until they are old enough to go out in the field..
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Unlikely - they're a very experienced charity, and unless you are near by and very experienced with youngstock they would politely decline your offer of help.
 
Yes I suppose they will, just got the feeling from that article that as winter comes in and more are abandoned they will not take them in... So sad.
 
Indiscriminate breeding, horses worth very little - this is something we are going to more and more of.

Dumped foals in the summer, abandoned and starving horses in the winter.

And as for being "thrown" over the hedge - remembering reports of treatment of youngstock earlier this year (broken legs and necks etc) sadly, I can well believe it.
 
kittykatcat said:
Yeah, lets just all start throwing foals over hedges so that charities get more exposure - what a jolly good idea...I might even go and slowly drown some lurchers whilst I'm at it, and chuck some kittens on a bonfire (all actually carried out by my lovely local travelling community, who don't actually travel anywhere...certainly not to work, oh, sorry, no, they do travel to our farm to steal diesel and 'scrap' metal, that actually happens to be a vintage piece of machinary which was very sentimental to us...ahem...SLIGHTLY off topic!!!)

Sorry, but to try and make any excuse for this is ridiculous...ok, it's media, it's jounalism, they need to make a good piece of writing, but this hasn't just been made up out of thin air!!!
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Hear, hear.
FDC
 
So predictable.
Such poor reading comprehension skills. :(
I sort of feel sorry for you - human pinballs being pinged back and forward emotionally under someone else's control, in this case, one bad journalist, who can't report the facts, but glams it up with emotive phrases 'dumped' 'thrown' etc.
I'm disappointed, I guess, that you don't have better insight than this - don't you evaluate things you are told?
Do you just say 'HHO says so it must be true' - remember the story of the miniature foal they ran? Not too discerning with their journalism there.
But because one reporter says the foals must have been 'thrown', it must be true?
(Incidentally, if any of you have tried to pick up a 3 month old cob foal, you'll know you wouldn't be throwing them far! :p)
Rant over, I'll let you go back to your 'Oooohs' and 'aaaah's and 'travelling community are evil' posts now. :D :p
Duh
S :D
 
So Shilasdair, with your infinitely superior comprehension skills, what is your take on this story? :D

I may well be naive, and it wouldn't be the first time I have taken a media report at face value.
 
I doubt very much they were thrown over the hedge TBH...A foal of that size would take some lifting.
But this winter could be harsh for many horse and pony owners. I agree with the poster who said they'd be better off shot. The Markets are going to be dreadful places to attend when Autumn really kicks in. :(
 
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Bertthefrog said:
So Shilasdair, with your infinitely superior comprehension skills, what is your take on this story? :D

I may well be naive, and it wouldn't be the first time I have taken a media report at face value.
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:D :D
Read the story again - and the facts would seem to be:
1. We have found 5 foals on council land. We don't know how they got there - ergo we think someone 'threw' them over a fence (incidentally - I challenge you to try to throw something as heavy as a 3month cob foal anywhere :p). Could also just mean that the foal's owners cut fencing, and restapled it, or took a gate off the hinges (most fields do have an entrance somewhere!).
2. We estimate that they are 3 months old, and we haven't a clue if they are weaned or not (let's face it, they're weaned now :p)
3. The council are trying to contact the owners, to get them removed from council land, but have to follow the legal process. The four remaining dumped foals are healthy enough and therefore can't be legally removed - besides legally I believe it is now the Council's responsibility to attend to their welfare.
4. The rescue centre have only taken one of them, and it's pretty lame. They don't know why it's lame, but guess it is stifle and pelvis. They are giving it painkillers and antibiotics and anything else they can think of, but they haven't confirmed a diagnosis yet.
5. The rescue centre would really like you to donate money (hence the heavy hints about winter, and not being able to take them).

On the plus side, it's a registered charity, and seems to be approved by larger registered charities such as the BHS. On the down side, it may be struggling financially which is why it needs support from Redwings etc.
There are worse charities you could give your money to.
However, in the current recession, there are more horses than good homes. The solution is to put anything without a viable future to sleep. If you have 40 homes, say, and 50 horses, you ought to 'cull' the 10 least healthy, if you are trying to make a moral decision.
S :D

PS Apologies for the essay! :p
 
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