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Amymay Again said:
Have also been wondering how @tda is getting on.
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Hes doing ok, he is a lot brighter than he has been and a bit more energy. Insulin injections are going well, he barely notices it 😄
He has got his appetite back only been up in the night twice since starting Insulin. He went for a Cushings test yesterday but has come back negative today which vet was a bit surprised by but they will monitor.
Back to vets again next Friday for blood prick to monitor blood sugars.
 
tda said:
Hes doing ok, he is a lot brighter than he has been and a bit more energy. Insulin injections are going well, he barely notices it 😄
He has got his appetite back only been up in the night twice since starting Insulin. He went for a Cushings test yesterday but has come back negative today which vet was a bit surprised by but they will monitor.
Back to vets again next Friday for blood prick to monitor blood sugars.
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That's brilliant news.

Get the vets to show you how to do the blood pricks, that way you can do daily monitoring at home xx
 
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Amymay Again said:
That's brilliant news.

Get the vets to show you how to do the blood pricks, that way you can do daily monitoring at home xx
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Thanks, yes that's the next thing to learn. A friends dog has also just been diagnosed with diabetes and they are having a Libre thing fitted - i haven't learnt enough about it all yet, but can't see how that will help? The vet has not suggested it can be controlled by what/when dog eats
 
tda said:
Thanks, yes that's the next thing to learn. A friends dog has also just been diagnosed with diabetes and they are having a Libre thing fitted - i haven't learnt enough about it all yet, but can't see how that will help? The vet has not suggested it can be controlled by what/when dog eats
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The libre patch constantly monitors sugar levels. The data is Bluetoothed to an app on your phone. My friend found it invaluable for the first year and it meant that she learnt enough through the data to be able to tweak the insulin dose based on the continuous data, and has managed to keep the dog really well. You can replace the patches yourself within the suggested timeframe (I think it might be every 10 days). It's not a particularly cheap application to use. But you should be able to get a prescription enabling you to buy the patches on line at a reduced rate. And it enables up to date information, rather than sucking it and see.

If your vet isn't giving you any dietary information, you'll need to research it yourself.
 
I'm Dun said:
What happens if you just tell her to get to bed? Mine have tried this on occasion. Usually deer nearby or cats in the garden. They are told to pack in and go to sleep, and they do.
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Always try to get her to snuggle back down but once she’s up she’s very stubborn!
 
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Amymay Again said:
The libre patch constantly monitors sugar levels. The data is Bluetoothed to an app on your phone. My friend found it invaluable for the first year and it meant that she learnt enough through the data to be able to tweak the insulin dose based on the continuous data, and has managed to keep the dog really well. You can replace the patches yourself within the suggested timeframe (I think it might be every 10 days). It's not a particularly cheap application to use. But you should be able to get a prescription enabling you to buy the patches on line at a reduced rate. And it enables up to date information, rather than sucking it and see.

If your vet isn't giving you any dietary information, you'll need to research it yourself.
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Tbh they haven't mentioned the libre and I haven't asked. He started on 7 iu twice a day and just been upped to 8 iu. I've just realised I don't know what 'normal' blood sugar level is and haven't asked the vet , will make a note to find out.
I did have a brief look at some diabetic specific feeds and was not overly impressed with the ingredients, so will carry on with what he's used to
 
tda said:
Tbh they haven't mentioned the libre and I haven't asked. He started on 7 iu twice a day and just been upped to 8 iu. I've just realised I don't know what 'normal' blood sugar level is and haven't asked the vet , will make a note to find out.
I did have a brief look at some diabetic specific feeds and was not overly impressed with the ingredients, so will carry on with what he's used to
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Much of the journey you're on is going to be about self education and being proactive. And whilst we may not be overly impressed by ingredients in some veterinary foods, they've been developed for a reason and with science behind them. (Daisy is currently on one. I haven't looked at the ingredients. It's been prescribed for a reason).

Your dogs current food may be fine. But do double check the %'s of carbs, sugars etc.
 
druid said:
All.my diabetic patients have freestyle libre 3 monitors fitted. They last 15 days, cost about £60. Easy for Owner to apply if pet is amenable.

Constant monitoring and they can send me the info of the continuous curves.
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Is that £60 every 15 days or you mean they need recharging or something?
Only asking out of curiosity.
 
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tda said:
Thanks, yes that's the next thing to learn. A friends dog has also just been diagnosed with diabetes and they are having a Libre thing fitted - i haven't learnt enough about it all yet, but can't see how that will help? The vet has not suggested it can be controlled by what/when dog eats
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I wear one. Its game changing. It monitors blood sugar levels mainly, but also sends alerts to your phone if the bs goes high or low. Its a really good tool for not only emergencies but also for improving general management.
 
Amymay Again said:
But you should be able to get a prescription enabling you to buy the patches on line at a reduced rate. And it enables up to date information, rather than sucking it and see.

If your vet isn't giving you any dietary information, you'll need to research it yourself.
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Sadly not, they charge everyone other than the nhs £60 quid a time. I was buying them for myself before the NHS started supplying them.
 
pistolpete said:
Always try to get her to snuggle back down but once she’s up she’s very stubborn!
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In that case I'd just completely ignore her. If she wants to be up, then fine. But your not getting up. It might take a few restless nights but once she knows how it works then she will give up. I've had more than a few hard core stand offs with Cooper. Hes such a sensitive little flower that when he gets himself wound up he wont be distracted or redirected, so I ignore him. It takes a long time the first few times, but now he knows I dont react or get invovled with Cooper drama. It has never stopped him from coming to me when he actually needs to go out, or is hungry or anything else he needs. Its just stopped the escalating behaviour until I either do what he wants or he gets himself upset. Hes a dream now but by god he was an awful, awful adolescent!

Obvs make sure theres no underlying physical causes first.
 
I'm Dun said:
In that case I'd just completely ignore her. If she wants to be up, then fine. But your not getting up. It might take a few restless nights but once she knows how it works then she will give up. I've had more than a few hard core stand offs with Cooper. Hes such a sensitive little flower that when he gets himself wound up he wont be distracted or redirected, so I ignore him. It takes a long time the first few times, but now he knows I dont react or get invovled with Cooper drama. It has never stopped him from coming to me when he actually needs to go out, or is hungry or anything else he needs. Its just stopped the escalating behaviour until I either do what he wants or he gets himself upset. Hes a dream now but by god he was an awful, awful adolescent!

Obvs make sure theres no underlying physical causes first.
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She went midnight to 6.30 last night but she insisted on getting up and did wee and poo so I guess that’s ok. She’s a funny bunny!
 
Just a quick update on diabetic Dexter, he's doing ok, food sorted and mainly eating well, surprised myself with doing the injections, as lomg as i dont think about it too much.
His blood sugars are still fairly high, 19.2 at 3pm today (6 hrs after breakfast) so insulin increased again.
I have a Libre monitor on the was to try on him.
Only sad thing is he is already more or less blind, so we will have to see how we go on from here 😐
 
My whippet sometimes gets me up in the night.

Or I suppose I get him up.

If my partner wakes up for a wee, then he stays in bed asleep.

If I wake up for a wee, then he will get himself up too and ask to go out.

Well if youre having a wee, then I'll have one too....

It's annoying.

I try so hard to do a silent sneak to the toilet. It seldom works.
 
tda said:
Just a quick update on diabetic Dexter, he's doing ok, food sorted and mainly eating well, surprised myself with doing the injections, as lomg as i dont think about it too much.
His blood sugars are still fairly high, 19.2 at 3pm today (6 hrs after breakfast) so insulin increased again.
I have a Libre monitor on the was to try on him.
Only sad thing is he is already more or less blind, so we will have to see how we go on from here 😐
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As a diabetic, libres are game changing, and will make everything so much easier for you!
 
My oldest whippet, Floyd woke me up at 2am doing his excited, come quick, I need you dance. I dutifully got up and he wanted a snack, ok fair enough, hes dropped weight so can have food whenever he wants. Then Cooper got up, thought a trip outside would be fun, so I let him out. Floyd then wanted out, so out he went. Both had a very fun time checking the whole huge yard before coming back in. Floyd then wanted to eat, but wanted me to stand in the kitchen with him, Cooper stormed off as he wanted food but hes fat so no!

2.20am they were both back in bed sleeping and I was wide awake till 4am.

Theres normally dry food left down for Floyd so he can eat when he wants, he often likes a snack at midnight ish, but Id shut the bedroom door last night.

They dont usually wake up, but if one gets up, both do and its party time!
 
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