Update, for those who are interested

Apologies in advance for blowing my top at you here but read my past posts before you presume to patronise me. It was always my intention to call the vet if/when she went over what would be her due date and if you were not intent on being so bloody sanctimonious and had read the history then you would have seen that. Furthermore I can pretty much guarantee that if she is not in foal the vet will be happy with her health, I'm no vet, never said I was but I know my mare. If for one second you or anyone else thinks I have not had my mares wellbeing at the top of my priorities at all times then quite frankly your narrow minded and ill informed opinion is not one that I hold in high esteem.

But don't you think it would have been safer and more proactive to have called the vet in the first instance time to come out and test? This still and always will be a very very sorry tale of poor horsemanship verging on neglect whatever the outcome. "Knowing your mare" is NOT enough! You are the narrow minded one here and as for ill informed you need to do far more homework before EVER considering breeding in future. I just hope that your rediculous ideas have not rubbed off on anyone who have read your posts. Thursday today, lets get this over and done with for the sake of your poor mare.

Now I will sit back and wait for your groupies to jump on me - I hope they don't decide to breed either!
 
But don't you think it would have been safer and more proactive to have called the vet in the first instance time to come out and test? This still and always will be a very very sorry tale of poor horsemanship verging on neglect whatever the outcome. "Knowing your mare" is NOT enough! You are the narrow minded one here and as for ill informed you need to do far more homework before EVER considering breeding in future. I just hope that your rediculous ideas have not rubbed off on anyone who have read your posts. Thursday today, lets get this over and done with for the sake of your poor mare.

Now I will sit back and wait for your groupies to jump on me - I hope they don't decide to breed either!

I think some of them do have children already.
 
Come on guys, can't you just back off now and let QB update us without hassling her? (Although I did find Lionman's comment quite funny! :D)

As for "choosing to breed", please do try to keep up! QB has never had any intention of breeding, it was an accident resulting from bad advice from a vet.
 
Come on guys, can't you just back off now and let QB update us without hassling her? (Although I did find Lionman's comment quite funny! :D)

As for "choosing to breed", please do try to keep up! QB has never had any intention of breeding, it was an accident resulting from bad advice from a vet.

Try reading my post "breeding in future" - this was a sad misjudged, mismanaged accident!
 
Come on guys, can't you just back off now and let QB update us without hassling her? (Although I did find Lionman's comment quite funny! :D)

As for "choosing to breed", please do try to keep up! QB has never had any intention of breeding, it was an accident resulting from bad advice from a vet.

that amazing person who so many of you think the mare will be unable to carry a foal without might have caused her to become pregnant in the first place...
As to the pregnancy going wrong, well tbh this has been said before, it can go wrong whatever, please read those stories of it all going wrong because the vet made a ''mistake'' just because the vet is actualy a normal human being too and whatever he does, if its meant to go wrong (by god for example) then it will, no matter how many vets are there, thats what OP is/was trying to tell you all along, she did NOT plan the pregnancy therefore she thinks that if its meant to be then so it will be, thats why she left her mare to it, jeeez its not that hard people. as much as i get your point, its been said too many times, now give it a rest and let OP gives us an update. and tbh i am going to feel sorry for the poor horse and person if theres something wrong rather than pregnancy (touch wood) because she's only human, people make mistakes and people make decisions, but still need support and sympathy. so to those who said 'i will be the one to say i told you so' would that make you feel better?? now imagine you made a mistake too or took the route your friends told you not to and went wrong, how would you feel if no one would stand by you and support you but everyone around you said 'i told you so' and turned their backs on you. think about it!


Now come on OP, update please!!!! :D
 
BonneMadman or whatever your name is: I think the really sad thing is that I don't live closer to you, I feel somewhat bereft that I don't and totally amazed that I have managed to bumble through my life mismanaging horses with no detrimental effect to them, god what I would give to have you there blessing me with your wisdom 24/7. Just think, I wouldn't be neglecting my horses then. It is all the horses that I have ever owned that I feel sorry for, all 8 of them...

In all honesty BM, whatever you may think of me, you are beginning to sound like a parrot, everyone heard what you said the first time, and the second, even the 3rd, 4th and 5th. You have your opinions and views, and whilst your opinion of the current situation will not change, you seem to have made assumptions about my entire management and care of my animals based on your assessment of this situation I find THAT very scary. You may have taken offence at the popularity of this post, and this may have fuelled your anger, that however is not my fault. I wish you well with your horses in the future.


Well folks its thursday........



So...














Do you want to know?















Hang on, I'll just roll a fag before I get typing...........
 
Vet has been and gone, over the last couple of weeks Eb's has changed back to normal and in her attitude she has become her bouncy self again. She is still calmer than she used to be and is lying down religiously every night. Vet could feel nothing and so scanned, again nothing untoward, heart rate is also fine. End result is that she is not pregnant and from what he can tell never was! He did suggest it could have been phantom, but is more willing to put the sheer size of her down to her being bloated, as always she has a lot of 'gut noises' he has suggested that we may want to look at keeping her on roughage throughout the summer to try and lessen the bloating. He is happy with her health and even with her teeth (she started to develop diastema this time last year and we kept picking the stuff out, the gaps have shrunk back now which he is really pleased with) So all in all, a clean bill of health for a very non pregnant mare.....

Now, the silver lining....

YO purchased a lovely little 13.3 mare a few months ago. She was sold as having been in foal before and having gone back to the stallion in her first season, so possibly in foal, as YO purchased her as a show pony for her daughter she had her injected to abort the foal. Bless her the next couple of days she looked very colicky and sorry for herself. After a week off the daughter started to ride her again, I gave her lessons, and rode the little mare myself (she is a dream... arab x) Then, YO's daughter took a tumble at a jump in another of their horses and damaged her spleen despite wearing a BP, she has to have 3 months off riding. We have been seeing similar changes and rumblings in this little mare, YO rang vets and they said it was not possible for the foal to have lived, that if it was still there it would be fossilised. YO decided to get her checked when they came to do Ebs, because she couldn't stand the not knowing, although she knew in her heart, as the vets had said... It just wasn't possible.....


Have you guessed the silver lining yet?









YO's daughters mare is in foal! 5months and its very healthy and very alive :D






Funny how things turn out isn't it? :D




I think I'm going for a short wander up to the church and back on ebs this afternoon, and I can't wait :D
 
Ah there was indeed a silver lining! You created a fabulous thread and Ebs got herself some pampering :D
Thanks for the update - we want pics of YO's pony foal when it comes please!
 
What a strange end to the story! I'm quite disappointed Ebony isn't having Ben's foal, but enormously relieved that she's fine and there's no health problem causing the changes in her.

It's interesting that you were convinced you saw foal movements at one point. I really believe that our minds play tricks and we see what we want to see sometimes. Rather like another thread on here about Animal Communicators perhaps: the power of suggestion?

So glad all's well though. Let us know how the YO's mare gets on please!

xxxx
 
FS, strangely enough, YO felt awful when she saw the little mare in such a state after the injection, and what with the daughter being 'off riding' its no great shakes, YO asked her daughter what she would prefer and she decided to ride v's have foal. However, after the excitement with Ebony, YO had started to say she wished she was in foal, especially since they had decided to buy a jumping pony for her daughter. So this news is very very well received. When the time comes for the daughter to start riding again, she will have a proper jumping pony and focus on that, the mare will be able to be a wonderful mum and everyone will be happy.

As I have always said, Ebs has given her little heart to me, she has given me everything, a foal would have been well recieved and much loved and cared for, but it was not planned or 'asked for' I am very happy that I can go out today and jump on her back :D The journey has brought us even closer together, I have gone cross eyed observing her! She's 18 so allowing her to have a few months of not being ridden was neither her nor there to me, but now we can go exploring again, and I can book the holiday that I was going to have in october! :D

Strangely, despite previous excitement that she could be in foal, I feel no disappointment, but I suppose that's because she really is everything I want and I feel so excited about being able to go and tack her up and enjoy getting her fit :D
 
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I thought at much after the 339/340 day period had passed and there were no more signs.

Glad your mare is ok, and you can start riding again.
 
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