Update from Gingerwitch

marydoll said:
Try to ignore the nasty big mouths, or flick them the vickies and tell them to duck off ... Or words to that effect, keep the faith and good luck for tommorrow,
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lol do it GW, you have thought of nothing else but the welfare of your boy and anyone who dares say otherwise really should go do one!! He would have given up by now if he wasn't strong enough to get through this, believe in him and have faith in yourself.x
 
Can you ask the vet to bring an irrigation syringe with him tomorrow? We used to mix bute with a bit of water and syringe it into her. She had arthritis and preferred it mixed with some drinking chocolate, which the vet said would be fine, so long as we didn't try to race her! Her days of even thinking about racing were long gone!

I understand that sedalin helps the blood flow through the feet (or something) and is quite often given to laminitics these days.

Ignore the hurtful comments, they are made by idiots.

Oh and I don't recommend sleeping in a stable - it's bloody cold, even in the middle of summer, so unless it's absolutely essential and it doesn't sound like it - we were bottle feeding a foal and turning him to avoid 'bed' sores- you'll have a better chance of getting some sleep in your own bed.

Good luck for tomorrow!
 
My old fella had laminitis brought on through the loss of his stable mate (nearly 20 years together).
Vet came out and put him on a course of bute for a week, no joy so we had x-rays done at approx 2 in afternoon (they came out to us) by 5 pm the vet called called and i knew his pedal bone had some degree of rotation, the vet contacted my farrier and they discussed the xrays and the farrier came and fitted heart bars and trimmed the hooves as per the vet and the xrays.

I didnt need to ask/beg for the xrays to be taken, I was told that this was the next step in the diagnosis.

Dont allow yourself to be pushed around - you want the xrays then get them done (I had 6 xrays taken which cost about £400, but they did bring the xray machine to me)
 
Just back and all is well so far.

Really worried about leaving him with 2 clicks of sedaline and a hay net - but i need something to stress about over night.

Alarm on for 5am - so hopefully can get home for half 6 and have a 30 min proper sleep before i go to work !
 
Mine had sedalin. It opens the blood vessels in the hoof.......but then he decided he was going to Bronc round the stable as he was getting peed off with the idea of a diet so I have to inject him twice aday with acp!
 
Hope the big lad is ok, today, GW. Just a note on lack of appetite. Did the vet mention that pergolide causes them to lose their appetite for a while? Apparently can take a few weeks to come back, so this is probably why he wasn't eating the Hi-Fi Lite. Sorry if I've missed someone else saying that, but thought it would reassure you ( a bit!).
 
Good News first - x-rayed this morn - no more movement in either hoof

Bad news - wont eat anything with his pain killers in, so we ended up having a vet injection and I have spent 4 hours tonight trying everything we can think of to get him to eat... we have eventually swoped danilion for bute ???? and he eat it with bran. Would not touch, sugar beat, calm and condition, hi fi, carrots, apples, pony nuts, pony mix, treacle, mollasses - spoke to hubby he said try savory... so we went with the bran.

This bruise on his sole is what is giving him mega pain??? - vet says he is not healing due to the fall out from the chushings..... so his body does not heal - so hopefully we will start to see some improvements soon - and he possibly has a pus pocket forming in his hoof - something which could be a nail head was showing on the x-ray - so we need to wait and see.

Just about to have my tea... and a kip for an hour and were going back at 11.15pm for late night checks.
 
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Mix Honey and mustard (works for colds) into a paste with a small amount of danolin and offer it in a slice of bread? If he takes it, try in a small feed, maybe blend some carrot in the blender at home and add that?.. I hope your big guy pulls through, I can't even imagine what your going through, hugs XXX
 
I would use an irrigation syringe and any meds mixed to a paste with water. I had to do wthis every day for three years with the old Appy, mind you I used instant drinking chocolate, which she quite liked :D We have used this method with others who would not eat meds whatever we did with them. The trusted syringe works every time. If it is a tall horse, stand on a box.
 
Gw, try normal mollichaff it was all ebony would eat... She went nuts for it. Also give some of the feed companies a ring, mollichaff, a &p, baileys and dengie are fantastic they will send out a
Load of sample bags of suitable feed for you to tempt him, baileys are particularly generous, my freebies filled about
1/2 a normal feed bag, they will also send you their probiotics and their aappetisers. If you haven't got big lad on a probiotic, protinex is great, I can really reccomend it. Great news about the halt in the rotation, ignore the critics, you do and will have the strength, it sounds like you have a very supportive oh too x I look out for your updates everyday and am really hoping he comes through this x
 
Peppermint cordial worked for my mega fussy oldie!!! he was practically battering down the dorr for the steriods and antiBs with that in his dinner ;)

Normally he hears the packets and sulks at the back of the box with his head in the air playing 'I cant SEE you' :rolleyes:
 
Late night check and all is well.... very hungry pony tonight, very alert..... OH says its the best he has seen him look in months.

I will be worried all night now.... he looks to bright :)

GW
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the best thing i have found to get bute etc down a horse is marmite, trust me will hide the taste of anything and they seem to like it, i make a marmite tea to wet the feed
its still yuk as far as i am concerned though
 
Just back from yard.... spoke to vet at 9pm - he wants to come and see him tomorrow.... we still cant figure out why he is in so much pain with this one hoof. If the pedal bone is on the move then it does not make sense - he has heart bars on, and we x-rayed yesterday and all was fine..... we are hopeing that it is an infection..... so we have just politiced his heel area - now we had a couple of burises show on this today, but this could have just been from the bandage we put on to protect the bruise on his sole.... but the pad made him lamer.

Wont eat anything except hay tonight - I ended up wearing most of the bute... I tried from 5 till 8.30 and then gave up and syringed it in - bute in warm water.... not the nicest stuff to wear to your mums for tea!

Lets see what tomorrow brings as he is so bright in himself
 
What bute are you giving him op? Powder? When Ebs started refusing meds the vet gave me a paste syringe that did about 5 low doses per syringe. Ask your vet to bring some along so you can administer it that way instead perhaps? Can't have tasted too bad as ebony was really good at taking it. Sorry to hear he's off his food tonight. As I said, all madam would stomach was mollichaff... Not normally what I'd buy but it was great to see her eat something! Perhaps see If any of the liveries have any there that you can tempt him with to try before you buy, and as I said ring the feed companies, baileys were fab and the feed samples were there the next day, you can give him a little variety then which is really useful when they are like this and they will only send stuff out that will suit his dietary needs.
 
Vet and my wonderful farrier arrived at yard tonight...... they had some weird chat.... meta this, did not concur.... something or other.... up shot was - they decided to nerve block hoof to finally see one way or other how bad things were.... if he was still lame then we were barking up the wrong tree... they then would look at ligament/tendon damage.... and see how bad his other leg was....

Longest 10 mins of my life... he has lost 87kg in the week though....10 mins goes past.... asked to walk horse... bit awkward on first few steps and then SOUND... nothing showing on other front leg WOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO !

Bruise on sole of foot starting to finally calicifie or was it corn over.... dont matter ITS HEALING !!!!

Vet coming back in 10 days to x ray... farrier booked in 4 weeks with x rays on the morn and shoeing on the afternoon.

Still lami in the hoof though.... and the slight rotation BUT farrier said - we will just grow a new hoof - he knows we will throw the money at it and 4 weeks shoeing and x rays will have the money found for them - I am just so lucky to have the hubby I have - but then again i would find the money somehow !

Chushings drugs finally letting his body heal !!!!!

A very naughtly cheeky pony has suddenly taken over the stable, although he is still very very sore.... he has certainaly turned a corner.

Vet very very hopeful of a good recovery.... but has said "he is a big lad, so we still need to be mindful"

hardest part is getting him to take his drugs....but a warm bran mash, with disolved danilion and a half a bannana seams to do the trick..... and he has really picked up since we have started to do the 10.30pm checks at night - and he gets 2kg of hay ration so maybe thats the secret !

MUST stick to his 6kg max a day too - that is hard as he looks so well now ..... but must be cruel to be kind

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (keep everything crossed PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)

GW
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