UPDATE on 'Is it my riding that made him' and a second *video*...

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Well.. he trotted up sound and lunged sound on both reins- it was noted that although he is not lame he is stiff behind.
He is being kept in more than normal as he lost some weight and it was also mentioned that this could be a big contributing factor.

Soo.. I took down my stirrups a hole and gave him more rein.. im annoyed that my arms still look stiff because i was trying to make an effort to bend them.
I slowed it down as much as i could but you can see the chickens all over the place and it wasnt helping us.


I also tried doing some more turns off the outside track.. we only had 20 mins and i only had a video-er for 2mins so i did the best i could.

Any better?
(Feel free to say no!)



ETS: TURN THE VOLUME DOWN
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I saw the video yesterday and did think he looked maybe bridle lame.... not proper lame - just resisting to the hand and trying to go into canter - but today I think he looks much better and have watched it a couple of times ! Well done you look to have taken up a better contact and he looks happier x
 
Better than yesterday. He looks a smidge stiff behind perhaps but he looks more comfortable than yesterday. Your position looks better having dropped your stirrups, just sit tall and have a bit more of a bend at the elbow.
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Looks a lot better to me. Much better for being slowed down and the longer rein. He looks like he has quite a big stride. May help to move the tyres so you've got more room to do shapes. Is he young? He looks quite wiggly!! I'd say try to keep a gentle contact on the rein and allow your hands to move with the movement of his head, rather than them being so baggy you loose the contact with his mouth which may confuse him. Try it in walk first and it should loosen up your elbows
 
Try to think of lowering your elbows rather than bending. Hopefully it should work.
Do the tyres or whatever they are have to be there? they look as though they are limiting you.
 
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I wasnt allowed to move them as they were put there for a lesson- which is why i only had 20 mins in there.
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Sorry i didn't see your first video, but this to me doesn't look bad - yes i would continue to concentrate on relaxing your elbows down, and the only other thing i can see that may restrict the horses movement is you are sitting a bit Chair- like - i.e there isn't a nice straight vertical line from ear to shoulder, hip to heel. Its the old adage, if we whipped the horse out from underneath you, would you fall on your bum or land standing up?
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The effect on the horse of your seat could well be that he is a bit sore in the lumbar region and unable to move through properly from behind. But do bear in mind i am being really nit picking, its not bad riding by any means
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Just been and looked at the other video. On that due to that tail bag whacking him I think with that and the wind set him off.

This video he looks slightly lame or not right. I wouldn't give up on him though looks like he needs lots of schooling his legs are all over the place which could be whats making him look lame lol. His back-left clipped the back right which made him stumble. Ground pole work and figure 8's and all that both reins. Walk, Trot and halt. His legs at the moment don;t know what you want him to do with them they are flailing. But he looks a nice horse
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Wow he looks completely different to yesterday much improved. I think he still looks a little stiff at times but like others have said this might just be his general wobbliness!

Re the elbows, I have had the same issues, it helps me to think of lifting my hands just slightly and then I find I get more bend.

Well done though.
 
LOADS better,he looked slightly stiff behind but not like he did yesterday.
What a difference dropping the stirrups has made
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and he seemed to be carrying himself in a natural carrige more now and flowing better through the trot and tracking up a bit more now.

Well done chuck x

Have to say i think you were very brave to post vid yesterday i could not have done it,and i dont think i would have been big enough to have such a long thread of CC and still come out of it smiling
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Well done chuck x

Have to say i think you were very brave to post vid yesterday i could not have done it,and i dont think i would have been big enough to have such a long thread of CC and still come out of it smiling
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I wouldnt say i came out smiling, but more determined perhaps! Thankyou
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Well done chuck x

Have to say i think you were very brave to post vid yesterday i could not have done it,and i dont think i would have been big enough to have such a long thread of CC and still come out of it smiling
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I wouldnt say i came out smiling, but more determined perhaps! Thankyou
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EF I was not ccing your riding to be honest I was more looking at the way of going of your horse. Beleive me just because you may or maynot have bent your elbows would not have made quite as much difference as this seems to be all peeps are picking up on.
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I agree - looks as sound as a bloomin pound!
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woop woop!

Poor sod was trotted up twice and two sets of people watched because i wanted to make 100% sure.. then he was lunged with all four people watching him on both reins.
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I think it is slowing the rhythm that has made the huge difference, although you need to slow him more. He is very green and he needs you to help him around the arena. Imagine a metronome in your mind...tick tock, tick tock....and stick to that rhythm with your rising.
You literally can't trot slowly enough at his stage of training, you will be amazed how his back will soften and he will stretch his neck and back.
Also as has previously been said, you do need to keep your lower leg underneath you, and this will be so much easier if you just slow down!
He is a lovely boy, I would love to own him!
 
LMFAO at the chickens! He's looking so much better now you have slowed him down
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It all takes time with schooling, he's quite young isn't he? So he's still a bit baby ish.
Only CC is DIAGONALS!! That won't help he balance
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Well done you, what a difference a day makes!

What a lovely lad. Much better than yesterday. Could still be a bit slower

I think he is sound enough ( and I should know
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He is a green baby, wiggly and a bit all over the place but tracking up well.

I think the " stiffness" people are seeing behind is more to do with him being a bit hesitent and almost propping with his hinds to be sure of a quick getaway if needed
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Keep going, keep breathing, smile and bend those elbows some more
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What a lovely chap, I am assuming he is young?

You ride beautifully, don't worry so much, like everyone says just slow him down and keep a steady rhythm.

I would say you could lift your hands a little and just check your diagonal - you were on the wrong diagonal on both reins at the beginning, but correct at the end. That will help him balance better, especially if he is young.

It is difficult to tell if he is level or not on video, tbh
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He doesn't look 100% to me, sorry. Hard to tell from a video is that is slight bridle lameness or a slight problem.

Good luck- He is going to be a great horse one day (Not that he isn't great now but
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From both videos, from what I can see, I would say he seems stiff around the pelvis area, rather than a nice loose swinging action (hard to describe) which will have a knock on effect with everything else and will at times ride uneven and effect his balance and rhythm and of course willingness to work at times.

Just out of interest Is there any difference in the placement of his hind feet/legs (backing up, turning on a tight circle) before and after work? also is there any difference if you have worked him in the school or ridden out for a simple hack which would not evolve working in smaller area, doing circles as as much faster work (not as physically demanding etc)?
 
Theres no difference from what i can see regarding before or after work? (re: placement of feet etc)

He fractured his pelvis as a 3yo so this would be a contributing factor im sure.
 
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