Update on 'I've just been kicked' thread

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I'm fine thankfully but clearly the kicker has a problem! Went to catch my boy yesterday, kicker followed him down the field but was not near enough to be a problem (I thought) soon as my boy had his back to him and we were distracted as I was putting head collar on the big decker ran at him and tried to double barrel him! He was ok thankfully but I was raging!

Chased him round the field until he was tired wit the other 3 looking on in bemusement!

If I had a stick I would have gave him a good whack! Told YO who said take a stick when catching my boy, she also told his owner who is a young girl, the dad laughed and the daughter was horrified!

Any tips? Horse has no manners but not my horse so I can't do anything about it!
 
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I haven't read the other thread, but I would not want this horse in with mine. I value my safety and you could easily be hurt when this horse goes for yours, not to mention your own horse being hurt. I would take a lunge whip in with me if I had no option, but to be honest, I would have an option, I would refuse to field share with that horse and the YO has an obligation to keep you safe, knowing what the other horse is like.
 
Have to say I'm not sure I'd be happy with a YO that suggests you take a stick into a field to hit another liveries horse!
If the horse is that bad shouldn't the YO find an alternative field where it can't get at other liveries.
Given the YO knows this horse is a problem, if you were badly injured YO would be fully liable - I would have thought.

I'd also not be happy as the other livery knowing the YO was suggesting anyone could hit my horse whenever they fancied it!
 
To be fair to yo it has literally just become a problem (that I've been told) and he's a strange big quiet horse, just young, doesn't play with the others just hangs about looking morose! He is the last one in the field that I would expect that behaviour from and having spoke to the other girls it seems to be only whe I am catching my horse, he doesn't do it to anyone else! (And I don't give sweeties in the field either!)
 
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I would have thought carrying a whip into the field will just provoke the horse into reacting against you i.e. not just kicking. I think the horse needs to be seperated. Is it handled?
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I think the hope is that he'll see the stick and not come near, I'm not actually going to leather him with it, hopefully waving it at him would be enough!

Handling is not v good apparently he's getting barley and ruder by the day and owners getting a bit scared, neither her or sharer have time to 'fix' him I despair!!
 
I should have said I am not advocating hitting the other horse with a lunge whip..just getting more length between you and he and maybe a noise to send him away. As amymay said..with a regular one he is still close enough to kick.
 
I would say either that horse or your horse should be moved out of the field ito it's own paddock for the safety of your horse and you. If neither of those is an option then can someone else come into the field with you and hold the other horse away while you get your horse out?
 
Thank you, will try lunge whip. I'll need to keep a better eye on him too, if this doesn't work he'll need to move fields he's the one who is causing the issues not mine :-) poor boy I think he's really unhappy!
 
I'd be asking for horse to be moved or separated off with electric fencing asap. I had a kicker put into the field with my two & it got bad enough for me to move yards as ym & owner didn't see it as a problem. Another horse was put out with it & got a kicking, ended up with a stapled leg & a £200 vet bill... :(
 
Whilst it is not nice, the horse is clearly jealous of your horse, he probably likes you, try to get YO to put him in another field, i do like double gates so horses can be sectioned from others when bringing in it also gives the groom time to put the headcollar one whilst the others are behind the second gate.
 
Hitting the horse wouldn't help and you wouldn't like somebody hitting your horse if the tables were turned.
Talk to your YO or even the owner and ask them to move their horse, if nothing happens - move your horse. I wouldn't want to take the risk of my horse getting injured if that was me!!
 
I'd be taking a stick and the big bummer would be getting a crack if it came near enough. Even just chasing will probably get the message across.

If that was my horse doing that I'D be the one sorting it out in the field. I don't have any issues with someone hitting my horse in self defence if is were required.

I don't tolerate ill manners at all, my mare thought she was top dog and decided to go for my gelding when he was being brought into the field, I still had a hold of him so he knew to be mannerly and she booted him and went to do it again. She got a fright when instead of her kicking him she got the metal catch of the lead rope off her legs and chased up the field. Since then I've seen the gelding sorting her out and I've had no further issues, a growl when she follows suffices when he's coming in at night.

Do what you need to do OP to protect yourself.
 
Sorry, going to have to disagree with most of the posts so far - take a stick into the field and give that horse a bloody good wallop! In fact I would make sure I hit it before it even thought of coming anywhere near the gate when you and your horse are there! It will soon get the message that you are not to be messed with! I am a strong believer in self-preservation and pussy-footing around this issue is going to get you and/or your horse hurt!

Some yards do not have the option of separate fields - we have one mare's field so if you don't like the herd you leave!
 
yesterday i chased the arse off him round the field, today he never camr.near us but i did take a stick. have spoke to the sharer and she says they dont have time to sort his manners!

anyway for those against taking a stick please see my quote re chasing not beating him up!

i do think hes jealous of mine but its not my job to sort someone elses horse, i work my ass of to instill.manners in my own!!

anyway ill keep taking a stick for now and the owner can like it or.lump.it of theyr not goimg to take time to.fix him!!
 
mcnaughty this wasnt even happening at the gate, halfway down the field and when i got kicked i wasnt bring mine in i was checking his legs and it was 7.30am so he cant even have wanted in!!
 
asommerville said:
yesterday i chased the arse off him round the field, today he never camr.near us but i did take a stick. have spoke to the sharer and she says they dont have time to sort his manners!

anyway for those against taking a stick please see my quote re chasing not beating him up!

i do think hes jealous of mine but its not my job to sort someone elses horse, i work my ass of to instill.manners in my own!!

anyway ill keep taking a stick for now and the owner can like it or.lump.it of theyr not goimg to take time to.fix him!!
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Its not so much a matter of the owner teaching it manners but this horse respecting YOU and your space! They could quite frankly spend hours training the backside off it but if it thinks you are a soft touch it is worthless.
 
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