Update on my girls laminitis

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Basically we think the reason why she's not been improving is cause the farrier hasn't trimmed her feet properley. Vet came out to see her today, she's now got frog supports on and she needs to loose more weight!! Vet advised poss giving her oat straw to bulk out her hay! She is sure she hasn't got cushings but she does think she may be insulin resistant. She's coming back to check her tues.

Any idea where i get epsom salts from

I'm not using that farrier again!!!
 
I would just leave her feet alone, it won't hurt her for them to grow a little while she is in pain; as I've said before my pony went 10 weeks without seeing a farrier, all to no harm whatsoever.

You can get epsom salts from your local feed merchants, its just another name for magnesium.

Hope she feels better soon
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You want pure Mag Ox. If you go to Yahoo Groups TheMetabolicHorse you will be able to source it from Jackie J A Taylor who really is an authority on IR, Cushing's and such.

For your horse's sake, please go to this group and get reading.
 
Hi. I have become pretty expert with Laminitis, having dealt with it a lot over the years. Try soaking the feet in ice cold water. It should be done really at the onset of the laminitis, (research by Pollitt in Australia), but I have found it works anyway whilst the Laminitis is still in the stages of bounding pulse. It has incredible results. Also most vets give ACP to reduce the blood pressure now, rather than the old fashioned Epsom Salts. Speak to your vet about it. If your pony is unshod, using boots like Old Macs for when the pony goes out and walks around, will stop further inflammation in the feet from the compression on the soles. Hope this helps.
 
hi, I'm sure your probably well aware of the feed supplements availible for laminitis, but I thought I would mention Global Herbs Laminitis prone supplement in liquid form.
My shetland has had chronic laminitis for a few years and my older horse has cushings and has had difficulty with laminitis throughout the year. I've been feeding them this as a general supplement since the spring and I am confident it has made a huge difference to both of them.
My shetland also gets a measure of laminaze and she has coped particularly well this year, in the past few years she has struggled throught spring and summer. This year she has been turned out all the time, and hasn't needed any veterinary attention so far (touch wood!)
Oh they can be such a worry! Hope our hose feels better soon.
 
Going to try and stick with what vets telling me, getting so much different info and so many conflicting ideas.
She wants her to have epsom salts to stop her getting impaction colic if i do start giving her oat straw.
I have been on metabolic horse thing xx
 
Why don't you give the laminitis clinic a call? Write all your questions down first as they are a premium rate number, they will tell you exactly what you need to be doing, as they are the leading experts, it is vital that your pony is managed correctly, I know you have been absolutely doing your best, but some of the advice you have been given is far from accurate. Good luck.
 
I'd second the lami clinic. Robert Eustace was fantastic. Our vet spoke to him directly. He gave us the options (both of them) plain and clear and was brutally honest with us. It was with his advice and our vets advice that we were able to make the decision we did. We still look back with guilt about the situation, but know deep down we shouldn't as we excercised all avenues - 3 vets, farrier, Robert Eustace, internet and library research. talking to people on here, talking to VERY experience people in real life, particularly those who know about lami.

Have you had her blood tested for cushings as the clinical signs aren't always there? We are quite sure that Sparkle had EMS, even though her bloods came back clear of cushings. She had none of the clinical signs of cushings. She did have a few high readings on the bloods, which the vet attributed to the lami, but something was really not right as she should not have kept getting new attacks and getting worse rather than better.

I am positive that your mare is going to get better and wouldn't tell you to ignore you vet but what I would say is to get the advice of as many different people as possible. What Robert Eustace says you can probably treat as being near gospel - he's the guru on it and that's why he runs the lami clinic and why we/our vet spoke directly with him. I can now say that I definitely exercised every avenue possible, including talking to THE expert and that can give me a little feeling of happiness as I know deep down I tried everything despite still feeling guilty.

I think you are also trying everything and are desperate, but I would still say talkto Robert/the clinic. We tried everything with my mare and Robert said that despite the fact we'd done everything as we should do, we just couldn't do anymore (except surgery with extremely low success rate and probably only making her grass-sound). As he said, some horses despite everyone's best efforts, just do not respond to the treatment. Sparkle was one of them and her being a heavyweight cob certainly didn't help.

I wish you and your mare all the best and commend you in being determined and listening to everything your vet says - they have trained for this. But Robert Eustace has done even more training and is a specialist.
 
I spoke to a girl at the laminitis clinic on thurs, she was very helpful and gave me a bit more info including saying about asking the vet re insulin resistance etc.

It's definately good to get lots of different ideas re treatment options but you literally hear something different from every single person so it's very hard to know which person is right or wrong. This is why i feel although i'm going to take other things on board i've got to go with what my vet and my new farrier is telling me cause they're the ones that are seeing my horse in the flesh.

She's alot better today re standing normally and no digital pulse although the lily pads are a nightmare!! xxx
 
Yes I agree about the conflicting advice! I think I remember saying something similar when my girl was ill. It was so difficult to know who was right. I took all the advice on board, like you have, then listened to what my vet/Robert/farrier said, which all more or less tallied, decided what was best and went with it.

Best wishes.xx
 
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