Update on random email from YO!

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Regarding my post below, well we emailed the YO, and got a reply back (which I'm not going to post as v long and not sure it's appropriate!) It was good in that she has accepted she maybe didn't put things across the right way and that she ducked out of dealing with the individuals concerned in the first instance, so that is good. As we thought there have been a few incidents which have prompted the whip comments and she's going to talk to us about them tonight. What is worrying me is that from what she said she wasn't even there when some of them happened, but other people have told her about them second hand. I'm not sure I like the idea of being on a yard where everyone is spying on everyone else and reporting so-called abuse to the YO! Doesn't make for a very nice atmosphere IMO!
 
It is a difficult situation, it is very much a case of 'her yard, her rules' and she has made it clear from the outset that she is passionate about NH methods. As long as she agrees to deal with individuals concerned on a one to one basis and listen to whatever they have to say there may not be a problem - most YO's get a bee in their bonnet about something, after all. Usually it is just something more conventional, like wasting hay or untidiness.
 
move !!! quick if i was you xxx
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How glad I am that I don't have to worry about being on a yard anymore, we have had ours at home for 13 years.:) I think it is very difficult, a bit like lodging in someone elses house, you have your systems and they have theirs, if the two don't match then I think you have to try and find somewhere that does match how you want to keep your horse.
 
Maybe this will all blow over and she will take your comments (which seemed sensible and justified) on board. I suppose it depends on how much else you like about the yard and what the other liveries are like.
I often feel that I could write a very amusing book about my experiences in livery yards. There is surely something wrong with all of them, but maybe you just swop problems A,B and E for C, D and F if you move??
 
Doesn't occasional 'differences' of opinion (and know all YOs) go with the terratory of keeping your horse on a livery yard?! You know you aren't the one that the comments are directed at so if I were you I'd live and let live, otherwise you could be moving yards on a regular basis, which can't be ideal for you or your horse!
 
yes, i'd be looking for somewhere else TBH
hearsay is usually dodgy.
if theres anything inappropriate then the welfare peeps are the ones to contact and the YO should do this or those witnessing the incident should.
 
If I received a mail like that, I'd be really p***ed off. Esp if I had never 'beaten my horse up'. I agree that beating a horse up is unreasonable and she would be well within her rights to discuss that with whoever the issue applies to.
If you are worrying about lunging, gadgets etc and you now feel like you are being spied on and can't relax it's not on.
Anyway, I dislike the email so much that I would be leaving.
 
At least she accepts that it came across wrong. But whilst that is a good thing, the other liveries who have 'reported' this supposed horse whipping would worry me more tbh. Interferring cows - have they got nothing better to do? (oh sorry no they haven't since they don't actually ride their horses - they just play 'games' with them
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I would consider moving but it IS pretty stressful - depends how good the facilities are/how settled Missie is.

good luck whateer you decide!
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Well I got down late but my friend had had a word, and as it turned out it was more appropriate for her anyway as a couple of the 'incidents' mentioned were in relation to her. Apparently YO took exception to the fact that my friend slapped her horse across the chest once when he was getting bargy, and once told him off for being silly about going past a rug on the fence. Both incredibly petty incidents IMO. My friend stood her ground and explained that as a 16.2 warmblood her horse is too big and strong to be walking all over her, and re the other incident that she has had him since he was a foal and therefore knows when he is genuinely frightened and when he is taking the p. Anyway I think they had a discussion as obviously both think very differently on the subject, but I think they've agreed to move on and put it behind them. My friend also said in future if YO has a problem she should come to her straight away and discuss it rather than taking other people's opinions as gospel, which YO seems to accept.

From my point of view I'm not going to mention it again as none of the incidents relate to me, but equally I'm not going to change how I do things - if YO has a problem with anything I do then she can come and speak to me about it (if she can pluck up enough courage!!) and we will sort it out, and if we can't then I'll move.

So I guess we'll see how it goes!
 
Do you think, though, that you will be able to relax at the yard and carry on doing things your own way as normal? Or will you feel worried about doing the 'wrong' thing incase YO gets annoyed?

I suppose it comes down to how much her views differ to others' and how much flexibility there is to let others get on with managing their own horses. It could crop up again though, given her firm stance on NH methods.
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You're right, and I have thought about that and under normal circumstances I'd be looking for another yard right now, but I'm going to leave things as they are for now for 2 reasons: firstly because my horse is barely doing any work at the moment anyway as she has recently been diagnosed with osteoarthritis and is not fully sound, so there should be little for YO to object to anyway (at least riding wise! not that i beat my horse up regularly when I'm riding but hey!
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) and secondly (and mainly) because things are a bit up in the air for me at the moment as I'm 10 weeks pregnant and therefore trying to decide the best thing to do with Missie while I'm pregnant - until I decide what my plan of action is going to be over the next few months I don't want to make any big decisions about moving yards. If the worst came to the worst and we did have a big falling out the horse could always come back to my parents farm until I get sorted out so I'm not overly worried really!!
 
Well you just have to go with what suits you at the time! Whatever is best for you and your horse......Maybe you'll change in the future but you are taking each day at a time......
 
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