Update - taking someone else's horse's rug off!

MontyandZoom

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For those who remember......I posted a few weeks back about 4 heavy cobs at my field. The owner VERY rarely comes to check on them (i'm talking every six months) and I was worried since when it got warm he came down and took 3 of their rugs off and not the last horse's. I was worried he was hiding something under there.

Anyhoo i recruited a friend from the field to help catch the feral mare only to find out it had been her who took the other rugs off!!
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They were still in HW turnouts and she found them sweating and exhausted from the heat but couldn't take the last rug off since the mare is unhandled. With some carrots, we managed to take it off. She has lice so I have informed the field owner but she isn't too bad overall considering she has not been touched.

I just thought I'd let you know how it turned out.
 
Disgusting - that is a welfare issue and should be reported. I've seen unclipped stabled horses spending days standing in HW duvet rugs because the owners are too thick to realise that unclipped horses don't need rugging (they buy the rugs because they like the pattern on the fabric I think) and the difference between night and day temperatures can be huge. Well done for stepping in.
 
Not ALL unclipped horses don't need rugging. I wouldn't dream of leaving Jack without a rug in the winter, however if he is in during the day I do reduce his number of rugs.
 
It is everso hard to know what rugs to put on them at the mo with the weather being so changable.. NOT that that is an excuse for hte 4 you are taking about, good for you to relieve them of their rugs tho.x
 
Some horses do need heavier weight rugs than others - had one mare who was really really cold blooded, unclipped, she had an under rug and a HW on during the day in winter, and more than once someone took them off thinking she had been 'forgotten' and the poor thing would be shaking with cold when we came round and discovered her unrugged. There is a very fine line between ensuring horses welfare and being a busy body who doesn't know the whole picture.
 
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I wonder if there will be post on here soon about 'the interfering busybody' who took some-one's horses rugs off. I should certainly be annoyed if some-one removed my horses' rugs. If there are welfare concerns there are several organisations which will educate owners.
OP- where are the rugs now? If they have been removed from the field and not returned to the owner, that is theft. If they are still in the field the horses are in danger of getting caught up in them and causing themselves injury
 
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I wonder if there will be post on here soon about 'the interfering busybody' who took some-one's horses rugs off. I should certainly be annoyed if some-one removed my horses' rugs. If there are welfare concerns there are several organisations which will educate owners.
OP- where are the rugs now? If they have been removed from the field and not returned to the owner, that is theft. If they are still in the field the horses are in danger of getting caught up in them and causing themselves injury

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Sometimes as horse owners you have to step in, as welfare organanistions tend to only be able to do something when its "Too Late" very sad words.
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I know that MontyandZoom would never leave rugs in a place that they would cause any danger.
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Im am sure you are not an owner that would not leave your horses for months on end without visiting them.
Really the people in charge of liverires should do something and not allow people to neglect horses. I wouldnt put up with people who dont look after them correctly and visit at least once a day!
 
I hadn't read the original thread (still haven't) but my point was that any-one who removes rugs from some-one else's horses is laying themselves open to accusations of theft or negligence. If these horses were on a livery yard then it is the YO's responsibility to ensure their safety and well-being. If there is a prosecution because of neglect/cruelty the YO as well as the owner would find themselves in court (not suggesting this situation is so serious)..
Not so long ago, I rang Redwings and asked them to educate the owner of a young stallion near me, they came out and the horse is now gelded and living with a companion. You do NOT have to wait until it is "too late".
 
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I hadn't read the original thread (still haven't) but my point was that any-one who removes rugs from some-one else's horses is laying themselves open to accusations of theft or negligence. If these horses were on a livery yard then it is the YO's responsibility to ensure their safety and well-being. If there is a prosecution because of neglect/cruelty the YO as well as the owner would find themselves in court (not suggesting this situation is so serious)..
Not so long ago, I rang Redwings and asked them to educate the owner of a young stallion near me, they came out and the horse is now gelded and living with a companion. You do NOT have to wait until it is "too late".

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I am glad you had good experiances with welfare organisations
and understand what you are saying.
My experiances however didnt have such a happy ending, after repeated calls to report a horse that constantly windsucked to the point he stopped eating, he became so thin, depressed and looked terrible as was 17.2... by the time somebody "did" something it was "too Late" and the poor horse was PTS. All of this could have been avoided if action had been taken earlier.... so Im afraid I would step in and suffer the consquences......
 
I know Zoomy - although Montyandzoom doesnt know that I do! PM me if your confused :S and I know she is very well looked after and surely the only reason for Montyandzoom to feel it necessary to "interfere" would be if she were REALLY worried about the horses. In previous posts, she had been saying for a while the horses were in a bad state and this wasnt a rash overnight decision to take action.

I too have not heard great stories about welfare organisations - through no fault of themselves (often hindered by law), they sometimes do take too long to act.

I say well done for having the guts to do something about it!
 
I hate when people waste horses - poor things.

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