Update

[eahotson]

Trainer came out.I told him the situation and he walked round.Opened door.Put headcollar on and stood waiting patiently for her to barge out.She didn't.He then did more work in the stable and then we went to the track leading to the field and did some more.She clearly remembered some of the work we did yesterday.We had a productive session.
I have got the trainer out for my benefit to be sure but also because I have a sense of responsibility to the staff who I don't want to see get hurt.I have offered to pay for a training session with my own instructor in the past but was reassured that they were "On top of it all".This clearly hasn't been the truth.I will offer again and I offer nicely and very politely.Overall I am a polite person.
When I bought her she had NO TURNOUT at all. She has always had turnout and we tried to arrange work days to coincide with arena days.She now has daily turnout and will soon be turned out overnight.

 

[Red-1]

Trainer came out.I told him the situation and he walked round.Opened door.Put headcollar on and stood waiting patiently for her to barge out.She didn't.He then did more work in the stable and then we went to the track leading to the field and did some more.She clearly remembered some of the work we did yesterday.We had a productive session.
I have got the trainer out for my benefit to be sure but also because I have a sense of responsibility to the staff who I don't want to see get hurt.I have offered to pay for a training session with my own instructor in the past but was reassured that they were "On top of it all".This clearly hasn't been the truth.I will offer again and I offer nicely and very politely.Overall I am a polite person.
When I bought her she had NO TURNOUT at all. She has always had turnout and we tried to arrange work days to coincide with arena days.She now has daily turnout and will soon be turned out overnight.

I am glad this was fixed with just the one session with the new trainer. However, I would still say to change yards, as it will be a bit prickly an atmosphere if/when they see you are accusing them of not telling the truth.

As far as they are concerned, they may be on top of the problem. It may not be that they handle it how you wish them to, and it certainly seems that you and they aren't getting on, from your comments on the previous thread. Was he getting away from the staff and breaking free, or just more effortful for them to keep in line? Just curious.

Also, a caution. My cob is no longer a thug for me, although he started out as one. It may be that he was simply testing me, I don't know, but he took some discipline, and a bit/headstall or gizmo halter to start with. Now, he is pretty good, even does kids and visits old folk's homes to do a PAT type visit. But, very rarely, and always when someone is watching, he can still throw me a curveball. LOL.

Again, I'm glad your lessons have gone well, and I do think you are doing the exact right thing for your horse by taking them.

 

[Highmileagecob]

Brilliant! I hope you feel more confident in managing the situation and things go from good to better!
As Red-1 has commented, cobs do test you. Mine is the perfect mother and daughter pony with manners to die for - but will plant and refuse to do anything at all for anyone else, and make them look a total idiot.

 

[eahotson]

I am glad this was fixed with just the one session with the new trainer. However, I would still say to change yards, as it will be a bit prickly an atmosphere if/when they see you are accusing them of not telling the truth.

As far as they are concerned, they may be on top of the problem. It may not be that they handle it how you wish them to, and it certainly seems that you and they aren't getting on, from your comments on the previous thread. Was he getting away from the staff and breaking free, or just more effortful for them to keep in line? Just curious.

Also, a caution. My cob is no longer a thug for me, although he started out as one. It may be that he was simply testing me, I don't know, but he took some discipline, and a bit/headstall or gizmo halter to start with. Now, he is pretty good, even does kids and visits old folk's homes to do a PAT type visit. But, very rarely, and always when someone is watching, he can still throw me a curveball. LOL.

Again, I'm glad your lessons have gone well, and I do think you are doing the exact right thing for your horse by taking them.

Brilliant! I hope you feel more confident in managing the situation and things go from good to better!
As Red-1 has commented, cobs do test you. Mine is the perfect mother and daughter pony with manners to die for - but will plant and refuse to do anything at all for anyone else, and make them look a total idiot.

I do think they have a sense of humour!

 

[eahotson]

I am glad this was fixed with just the one session with the new trainer. However, I would still say to change yards, as it will be a bit prickly an atmosphere if/when they see you are accusing them of not telling the truth.

As far as they are concerned, they may be on top of the problem. It may not be that they handle it how you wish them to, and it certainly seems that you and they aren't getting on, from your comments on the previous thread. Was he getting away from the staff and breaking free, or just more effortful for them to keep in line? Just curious.

Also, a caution. My cob is no longer a thug for me, although he started out as one. It may be that he was simply testing me, I don't know, but he took some discipline, and a bit/headstall or gizmo halter to start with. Now, he is pretty good, even does kids and visits old folk's homes to do a PAT type visit. But, very rarely, and always when someone is watching, he can still throw me a curveball. LOL.

Again, I'm glad your lessons have gone well, and I do think you are doing the exact right thing for your horse by taking them.

Well funnily enough, now that a fuller picture is emerging I have more sympathy for the yard owners text this morning.I thought that newbies behaviour was perfect apart from the barging from the stable.Thats what I was led to believe whatever the motive.She was breaking free and legging it up the path to the fields.I have got on with the staff well in the main and on occasion fought on their side when I thought they were being unfairly treated.There is no perfect yard. I will see how things go.This is an expensive yard.

 

[Flame_]

I don't know exactly where the OP is but, to the people who've advised moving, in lots of parts of Merseyside the selection of good livery yards is nonexistent.

OP, can you tell everyone to only lead her bitted and you do the same? This might be all it takes and is a straightforward rule to follow. Also, have you got a strong chain, grid or bar across the stable door so handlers can get in and out but she can't rush out as soon as the door opens?