Upset,,what would u do? Re; a young horse being sat on...

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I went to view a 16 month old the other day, lovely horse, he's related to mine you see hence why I wanted to view him.
Now toward the end of meeting him they said " he's proper docile " look and proceeds to chuck his daughter on his back:eek:
Now his daughter was a fully grown adult, not a child, and by no means tiny... Then they asked if I wanted to get on him..I said no of course.
Now I really like this horse and want nothing more than to have him, but whether I'd have the time for a 3rd is questionable!! Plus I don't have the money to buy him right now.

I'm so mad, I don't know what to do, I didn't get mad with the owners s I don't want to burn bridges in case I do want him, they said they will put him a cart soon...:(...

Is it considered animal cruelty or not???
 
Well it goes against everything I believe in, sitting on a 16 month old. There are some sorry sights but unfortunately if they are fed and watered I think the authorities turn a blind eye to lots of stuff.

Not sure what the point was of going to view a horse if you didn't have the time or money to keep an extra one though, related to your horse or not. This is where the threads about timewasters come from!
 
ISHmad said:
Well it goes against everything I believe in, sitting on a 16 month old. There are some sorry sights but unfortunately if they are fed and watered I think the authorities turn a blind eye to lots of stuff.

Not sure what the point was of going to view a horse if you didn't have the time or money to keep an extra one though, related to your horse or not. This is where the threads about timewasters come from!
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I don't know why you needed to add that last little bit in for...I didn't just go there to view him, they bred my horse, so I went for a chat too to find out his history....
 
Agree with above. Definitely not right in my eyes to even sit on a horse that young, or break to cart. I saw a 2 year old, very much generic cob nothing special, advertised as broken in for £2400.
But why go to view if you can't take on another?

ETA original post makes it sound like said horse was advertised for sale, and you've been to view horse with owners thinking you've gone with a genuine view to buy, not just because he's related to your horse. Hence myself and above poster wondering why you've done so?
 
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No, I went to see them to chat about current horses history etc, and then they mentioned they were considering selling him...
 
I have to agree that when you start a post with "I went to view a 16 month old the other day" rather than "I went to see my horse's breeders and whilst I was there they showed me" it does rather appear as though you went on purpose to view the horse.

I wonder how old yours was when you got him - he might have been sat on as well.
 
Troyseph said:
I don't know why you needed to add that last little bit in for...I didn't just go there to view him, they bred my horse, so I went for a chat too to find out his history....
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The word "view" (as in your original post) usually means going to see something you're considering buying so you can understand why people would think that was the case.
 
amymay said:
I'd just put it down to experience. Not everyone does things in the same way as others....
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Absolutely agree. There was a time when I was young when I thought there was a "right" way to do things and would think it cruel to do otherwise. But with age I've realised there are many points of view and many ways of doing things. It's not set in stone which is the "right" one.

The travellers' horses round here are broken very young indeed. It's not how I like to see things done but it's not my concern really.

I wouldn't put someone on a baby, I'd wait until a young horse was 3 or 4 before working them, but many don't. I'd forget it OP, unless the horse is very obviously suffering or severely neglected there's no-one to report it to.
 
FionaM12 said:
Absolutely agree. There was a time when I was young when I thought there was a "right" way to do things and would think it cruel to do otherwise. But with age I've realised there are many points of view and many ways of doing things. It's not set in stone which is the "right" one.
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wise words indeed:)
 
I witnessed my friend the other day very "spur of the momently" (is that a word?!) laying her eight year old son across the back of her yearling cob for the 1st time on Saturday and I've been wondering what I thought of that since...

The yearling was not bothered whatsoever by it all, he was in his own paddock, no headcollar etc, they were just saying hello to it then she just did it. I wouldn't do it - but then I've never had a yearling so I'm not really in a position to comment. What's everyone else's view on it?
 
fatpiggy - I was just about to say the same thing. Baby racehorses are routinely treated this way. Agreed TB's mature fast and are fed accordingly, but no one thinks to call the RSPCA about it.

In the US, people routinely break and ride in competition, their 2 year old horses, they think we are stupid to wait until our horses are big, strong 4 year olds.
 
BigRed said:
fatpiggy - I was just about to say the same thing. Baby racehorses are routinely treated this way. Agreed TB's mature fast and are fed accordingly, but no one thinks to call the RSPCA about it.

In the US, people routinely break and ride in competition, their 2 year old horses, they think we are stupid to wait until our horses are big, strong 4 year olds.
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There is evidence to suggest that tb's don't mature as fast as we think, and may in fact take even longer to mature than other horses according to this article:- http://www.equinestudies.org/ranger_..._2008_pdf1.pdf

I agree with the others though, not a lot you can do about how other people handle their horses.
 
Dee O'Dorant said:
I have to agree that when you start a post with "I went to view a 16 month old the other day" rather than "I went to see my horse's breeders and whilst I was there they showed me" it does rather appear as though you went on purpose to view the horse.
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I have to agree, if you view something it is normally to buy...

I must say to OP don't go to the sales and see the horses put through there then!! You would be in uproar

You see everything and anything when people sell their horses, I've seen some right sights example: tiny youngster walking around the ring with two kids stood upright on its back. I couldn't exactly start shouting down get of its back as they all seem to do it as they see it as a good selling point and they would probably think I am the one that’s mad.

If you know this person and went for a catch up and some info on your horses breeding then you must know them well enough to advise against this type of behavior.

Adios
 
In answer to the OP s question, I would do nothing.
2 friends have just broken in their two 18 month foals. 1 is an Arab the other a quarter horse. I don't think either are mentally or physically ready & if they belonged to me they would still be left, but it's not unusual here to break horses in early, & from what I've seen Australian horses dont seem to have any more or less back/ hock/ knee / hoof problems than European horses.
Kx
 
Irishbabygirl said:
I witnessed my friend the other day very "spur of the momently" (is that a word?!) laying her eight year old son across the back of her yearling cob for the 1st time on Saturday and I've been wondering what I thought of that since...

The yearling was not bothered whatsoever by it all, he was in his own paddock, no headcollar etc, they were just saying hello to it then she just did it. I wouldn't do it - but then I've never had a yearling so I'm not really in a position to comment. What's everyone else's view on it?
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My view would be that what your friend did was pointless and dangerous (ie putting a child across an unprepared youngster with no headcollar on).

However I probably wouldn't say anything, unless she asked for my opinion.
 
Irishbabygirl said:
I witnessed my friend the other day very "spur of the momently" (is that a word?!) laying her eight year old son across the back of her yearling cob for the 1st time on Saturday and I've been wondering what I thought of that since...

The yearling was not bothered whatsoever by it all, he was in his own paddock, no headcollar etc, they were just saying hello to it then she just did it. I wouldn't do it - but then I've never had a yearling so I'm not really in a position to comment. What's everyone else's view on it?
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As long as the horse wasn't bothered by it. I wouldn't worry.

I can't really judge - last year my eldest daughter (age 11) came running in telling me how she'd sat on Saffy and went for a ride across the field!!!! Saffy had just turned 2 at the time. No headcollar. No hat. Completely unbroken. Luckily Saffy is so laidback she's almost horizontal otherwise it could have been nasty. Apparently Saffy just looked at her and then wandered over to the trough for a drink - didn't mind having a passenger at all!

My daughter did get a good telling off though!
 
"Upset,,what would u do? Re; a young horse being sat on... "

In answer to that question - unless you own the horse in question - there is absolutely nothing you can do about it at all, short of buying it of course.
 
nothing wrong with having a sit on them. many of the big ones that have been here have been sat on bareback at 2. led around the yard for a couple of mins, god forbid even had tack on! in the long term it does make them much easier to break/back/ride away when they are ready! you really could argue that many 3/4/5 yr olds arent physically mature. personally having broken a fair few the ones that have been sat on/rugged as 2 yr olds are far easier to get going when 3 or 4 yrs old. i dont agree with riding them/working them as 2 yr olds, but dont have a problem with the odd sit upon! As you dont have the time for another one, and cant afford to buy this one as it is for sale, then i would urge you to tell the vendors this so as not to be a timewaster.
 
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