Upward rotation of the pedal bone

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The horse in question is under veterinary care and will be having remedial farriery. Not sure what that will involve just yet.

Does anyone have any experience of this and how it was resolved?

For info - she's already barefoot (always has been as far as I know), regularly trimmed and not on any hardfeed.
 
so you mean reverse rotation of the pedal bone? Is this due to collapsed heels? I have no knowledge but would think maybe wedges would be used remedially. I will ask farrier husband
 
My mare has this - be it not a very serious level, but she was born with it. The people who previously had her (who i worked for) had the money for the flexion tests, x-rays, remidial farrier, nerve blocks ect.. when they finally realised she couldnt do what they bred and broke her to do ( dressage through the grades potential for psg/inter1) they wrote her off. She then had a year off and I bought her from them. I have so far done everything from fun rides to small jumping, hacking and low level flatwork and has so far stayed sound.
I will try and get copies of the x-rays on here - Not very computer literate!
I found the best way was to keep her weight in check, standard shoes (as the remideal shows did more harm than good! in my opionion as iv never had a day lame with her since iv had her), not to keep her cooped up the stable and to ensure i only worked her as appropriatly as i could.

I hope you get some positive results!
 
My horse had this. Was remedial shod and the problem disappeared overnight as he was instantly sound. He was shod in bar shoes which gave more support. However 6 months later I struggled to keep him sound - although there were more contributory factors involved.
 
I have a livery that is 9 weeks into treatment, he was not lame just not performing as well as he should, he is being shod every 4 weeks with bar shoes, the vet wanted to put wedges on but the farrier was not happy to do this as the horse was sound and wedges may well have caused other issues. He had a few days off to adjust but basically continued as before, competing at BE 90/ 100 level, he is jumping well again and has not faulted SJ since the shoes went on, this was the issue he was stopping at times.

The vet will look at him tomorrow and possibly x ray again soon, in 3 weeks time he will have the shoes off and remain unshod over winter, in work hopefully and reassess in the spring.
I think it was caught early, he has no other changes in his feet, which at 14 is a positive.
 
Mine had this in hind feet and had very severe back pain as a result. Our then farrier had been leaving the toe too long. He was shod by our new farrier with a much shorter toe, with normal shoes on. We turned him away for 6 months, still being correctly shod and all has been fine ever since. I brought him back into work very slowly, 6 weeks walking etc. We've not had any problems since, I just bug the farrier and ask him how his feet are looking, just to make sure they're not let slip again.
 
Thanks everyone! Really interesting.
My mare had the farrier yesterday who did a fairly drastic trim whilst eyeballing the xrays on his phone. Her feet have always been longer than I've liked (I've had her a year) but she was being trimmed regularly and they were looking better than they were. She's not horribly lame or anything (she's been doing RC dressage all summer and scoring respectably before this was spotted) so hopefully it's been caught early enough.
I will try and get some xrays and before/after feet photos on here when I can get them from the vet/farrier, for interest.
 
I really do hope you have caught it early - apparently it is not as uncommon as it first sounds (we are all so obsessed with it going the other way !!)

I'm in the same position as Amy May unfortunately - due some more xrays today is in and out of box rest all the time and on 2 danilon a day which doesn't even touch the sides of her pain :-( possible discussusions re putting her to sleep but we too have other contributing factors. I was very hopeful that things would improve after the remedial farriery due to initial improvements

please note tho she's 20 and also has navicular so box rest doesn't really help her at all , people underestimate how heart breaking it is to have a horse with long term intermittent lamesness. She was working barefoot for 5 years until this began around a year ago Shoes haven't fixed it either :-( very sad face


If you do a search in vet forum for reverse pedal bone rotatation my xrays should come up, I'll try and do a new thread once the vet has been depending on the out come
 
After my lad kept going lame after he was shod, I had x rays done which confirmed rotated pedal bones. Shoeing never worked for him and he was lame no matter what shoes went on. I went down the barefoot route and alls well so far and he's back in work with boots on his fronts.
The one thing that he still won't except is his toes being shortened at all, both the farrier and trimmer have found this out and it puts him back to square one so his feet aren't being touched. Might sound mad but the one thing iv found through watching is , people trim him he's lame, touch his feet in anyway he's lame, let him trim and break off his own toe he's sound and in work. In time hopefully I will try again and see what happens but at the mo I'm enjoying riding him again. I really think in his case as he's been shod all his life from a early age ( ex racer) he has a weak heel/back off foot so by taking his toe back it's forcing him back onto a area which isn't strong enough to take it.

Good luck and I hope u find a way that works for your lad. X
 
If you mean reverse rotation of the pedal bone, my TB had this earlier this year. He was barefoot at the time (and still is). I'm correcting it by growing a well connected hoof wall and building up the structures in the back of the foot. So far so good; I've been hand walking him for about 2 months now and he's gone from 3 or 4/10ths lame to 1 or 2/10ths.
 
You can get this by a mixture of long toe, low heel and metabolic problems.

It's easy to spot externally on hinds with a characteristic 'bull nosing' to the wall.

CPTrayes is your expert on this though ;)
 
My boy has this in both hinds and it was found following x rays for on going lameness issues that he has had for some time. What the vet did say is that this condition can cause other issues in so far as it places the tendons and ligaments under greater starin than usual as they are stretched further than they would normally be. In my boys case, he was finally found to have high suspensory issues on both hinds which the vet believes to be as a direct result of the pedal bone rotation. My horse has actually had an operation on both hinds to try and sort out the suspensory problem but the vet has also recommended wedge shoes, with pads to try and relieve some of that strain while also ensuring the frog has something to contact with (the pads). Hope you sort it out.
 
ladylina - I can't find your old thread with xrays.
Oberon - what does "bull-nosing" mean?

She was only 1/2 tenths lame behind (I couldn't see it but then I find lameness behind hard to spot unless very uneven).

X-rays (which I haven't got yet) apparently also showed enlargd channel ls in the navicuar bone but the vet said she doesn't think this is the problem.
 
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