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it sounds as if you are its only hope


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I'm sorry but I really have to comment here. Whether the horse survives or not (more than likely will) is not going to be determined by Jubbily, a vet OR the ILPH.

Anyone who has ever had first hand experience of strangles will say exactly the same as me because they will know that none of them can do anything at all to help the horse. The condition HAS to run it's course and once the abscess has burst the horse will return to its normal happy self.

I am very surprised by the amount of people claiming that the way the owners are dealing with this is cruel - cruelty doesn't even come into it, they are taking the only course they can take I'm afraid. What would be the point in calling a vet out; the vet can do nothing at this stage in the condition. The ILPH can do nothing.

The best thing Jubbily could do would be to stock up with Povidone Iodine and lots of gauze in readiness for the abscess bursting. If, as I said before, the abscess doesn't burst within a week then the vet should be called to lance it. Then the horse will feel a whole lot better.

The more people involved, the greater the chance of other horses from other yards being infected....which is the last thing anyone should want.
 
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I'm sorry but I really have to comment here. Whether the horse survives or not (more than likely will) is not going to be determined by Jubbily,................Jubbily..................

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Opps I think you mean Jules! I'm Jubbily I have no horse wiv strangles................
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Thanks for everyones comments. The vet came to see another horse today and saw the pony for herself, without us having to call her. I know that there is little that can be done about strangles, this is the 4th case I've seen in the last couple of weeks and is by far and away worse than all the others. He wasn't well before he caught it and so this second infection has really knocked him for six. Our vet was aware of the outbreak as soon as it happened and she gave us the same advice re: keeping away from anti-b's, the reason I was questioning this particular pony was because he has taken it so badly. Anyway, vet and owner have spoken and he is now aware of the severity of his pony's condition.

Thanks again.
 
surely if there is the potential of other peoples horse getting infected again then there is a case to be put forward to the owner or maybe the YO could insist that he gets the vet out. I would personally be livid that his horse had it and could risk getting my horse infected.

Am assuming that it is quarintined (SP)

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this is very tricky, as if you interfere you may get castigated by the other liveries, chucked off the yard by the YO etc. Have you actually said anything to anyone about it other than on here? If not ring the ILPH first thing and ask for their help. The RSPCA are a total waste of space re horses, don't bother.
If the owner won't co-operate (who is looking after the pony or is it just out?) you can give it some relief by old fashioned methods such as a bag of steamed hay with eucalyptus oil in it to help the snot come out, though obviously the vet is the best person to advise you.
it's a long long time since I looked after horses with strangles, and we watched their temperatures carefully, anything over 103 we gave special care to as that meant they were pretty ill; otherwise they tended to get over it themselves within a few weeks.To be honest I don't have a clue what the modern treatment would be..
It depends how unpopular you want to make yourself with the owner, if you feel the pony is desperately in need of help, ask the owner if you pay will he get a vet..(could come unstuck here if the bill is massive however)
Or quote the new ac at him and say under it anyone can call a vet out and the government can make them pay..(total fib but depends how gullible he is)
I would take this pony's temperature if I were you, the snot running out isn't the real worry, the high temperature indicating his body is struggling to cope is.
The irish horses often come over with terrible snotty noses, is it green in colour? Or whiteish yellow?
I feel so sorry for you, but if the owner won't listen perhaps be brave and call the ILPH. You will find any vet will refuse to treat the pony without the ower's permission, so that isn't an option you can take.
 
Modern thinking is that antibiotics can be used in the treatment of strangles in young or old horses. However it causes the condition to develop more slowly. Strangles can be spread by using the same drinking water and water troughs. Horses convalesing from the disease are carriers of it. Some horses become carrier of it.
 
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