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[samandcasper]

hi everyone thanks for reading this i've recently brough a amazing horse from some dealers in kent who said they got my boy from horse and hound and he was free to good home but only because he couldnt be cared or paid for, he was in an awful state cuts that look like knife slashed and he was a bag of bones, he is getting there now and is so loving and perfect manners but the dealer didnt have a name or really much info just he is a belguim warmblood but still im not to sure he could be something diff 11 years ish 16,2ish grey gelding i brought him as was looking for a grey any way and i fell in love with him soon as i saw him as hes such a good boy in everyway and is lovely to ride now hes back to his weight just really hope someone who owned this wonderfull boy or knows of my baby can get in touch as i am despreate to know more about him after his recent hard life i dont want to do things with him and if previous he has had accident or what nots hope this pic can help me **just to let u know he is in a very loving home is my best friend and is well cared for by me my fiance and son he dosnt want for nothing and wont be sold on** PLEASE GET IN TOUCH IF U KNOW ANYTHING...

THE DAY HE ARRIVED

2 WEEKS AFTER GETTING HIM

AWWW I LOVE HIM SO MUCH

1ST RIDE

 

[Tinseltoes]

Awww hes lovely.

 

[samandcasper]

thank you he's such a star xx

 

[samandcasper]

JUST ADDING THAT

im not here to judge who ever owned him and not here to judge if he got like this when u owned him im really not. u did the right thing in the end and passed him on to someone who could affor or care for him. if u would rather not comment on this then email me on ryansamandscott@hotmail.com or call me on 07501848311 or text make a fake email account and u dont have to tell me anything bout ur self just really want info on my baby to give him the best in his life with me, i'd like some proof tht u did in fact own him pic's or anything else u can show/ explain and by all means u could still come see him ect, i really have brough a horse in a million i have young son and young brother and they ride him groom lead ect and hes so perfect as i've said i'd give anything to know his name age proper breed what hes done any thing u could offer....

i named him casper and have been told hes 11/13

 

[ISHmad]

I don't know anything about him but wanted to say well done for taking him on and giving him what sounds like a really loving and kind home.

Please don't take this the wrong way but I'd maybe hang fire re riding him for a bit until he has built up a bit more. You could do lots of in hand work to help to build his muscles up more, there's a great book by Oliver Hilberger who worked with a physically poor horse who is now a strong gorgeous ridden boy.

He's a lucky horse and I'm sure he will positively blossom once again with you.

 

[snopuma]

Have you had a vet check his age, its just that he looks to me to be in his 20's not 11, perhaps you could get that checked out, did he come with a passport?

 

[samandcasper]

thanks ISH MAD he's in much much better shape now these pic were in the 1st 3 weeks, i've had him now about 3 months now... some one called world horse welfare on me thinking i had done this to him and she said he looked far better than when i shows her the top pic and fat scored him of 2-3 and said it was ok to work him lightly so its i only have a walk round the roads or 20 mins in the school walking and bit of trot.... i've had quite a few ppl tell me the same on his age saying no older than 13 they have had a look at his teeth,

i did get a KWPN passport but the first 4-5 pages are missing and the rest is completly empty with not 1 single bit of info in it, he isn't microchipped as the vet scanned him?

snopuma.. can u tell me why u think he looks in his 20s ? i have a 24 year old sec d mare and ppl mistake her for a 10 year old on how she looks and rides jumps ect, u have to remember he so under nurished and underweight its going to make him look old i thought the same when he was delivered and i had the run to do as i please with him but i have fed him on oil, garlic chaff, freeze pony nuts and blue chip twice a day but for the 1st 3ish weks he had 4 smaller meals of tht a day with 2-3 huge haynets bulging with hay every night... tht wasnt ment to come across as me being rude xx

 

[pixi]

well done to you he needed a loveing home by the looks of it thers some cruel ppl in this world good luck for the future .hes obviously been some ones pride at some point hes just got in the wrong hands try merseyhorse traceing n also paardenspeurder site in belgium

 

[Changes]

QR - the dealers have to know where they got him from? Surely they can tell you?

 

[nativetyponies]

i did get a KWPN passport but the first 4-5 pages are missing and the rest is completly empty with not 1 single bit of info in it, he isn't microchipped as the vet scanned him?

this speaks volumes to me...

my guess would be is he came over from holland, possibly a meat market and the Dealer has spun you a yarn ..sadly, it happens quite often

Have a look at the H & H adverts online..they go back months.."if" he was bought from someone advertising in H & H then i'm pretty sure you'd find it.

Then i would get your vet to give him a real passport, as the one you have probably isn't even his.

 

[samandcasper]

pixi, i've had a lot of people say hes looks to have been someones pride and joy at one point this is why im despreate to find them he's my pride and joy now and ater all he would have gone through he turaly is worth his weight in gold hes just so good i havent found a fault in him yet, well apart from the mess in his stable every morning HES FILTHY LOL...

all i got told from dealers was tht he was for free to good home in the mag and i have triedto search but dont thinki do it wright as nothing ever comes up what im looking for??

he does have some very weird brandings on him but its under where the saddle goes on both sides this is why i think he was intended for meet one side looks like 2 stag horns and in the middle a L then after tht is says 2 numbers then on the other side it says 87

 

[Faithkat]

Stag horns is either Rheinland or Trakehener.
Are you sure he's only 11/13 . . . . with quite a few brands the last two numbers indicates year of birth and the letter is the initial of the stud

 

[nativetyponies]

pixi, i've had a lot of people say hes looks to have been someones pride and joy at one point this is why im despreate to find them he's my pride and joy now and ater all he would have gone through he turaly is worth his weight in gold hes just so good i havent found a fault in him yet, well apart from the mess in his stable every morning HES FILTHY LOL...

all i got told from dealers was tht he was for free to good home in the mag and i have triedto search but dont thinki do it wright as nothing ever comes up what im looking for??

he does have some very weird brandings on him but its under where the saddle goes on both sides this is why i think he was intended for meet one side looks like 2 stag horns and in the middle a L then after tht is says 2 numbers then on the other side it says 87

87?...that would make him 23yrs old

 

[tontoandtigger]

i know the stag horns wont be anything to do with this(i thought these are normaly found on the rump!!!) but what do they brand for lose of use insurance wise ? could that have anything todo with the
L87. i know they brand lose of use but cant remember what .could be talking total twaddle as i have never had this done be was at a riding school and a pony was branded for this. that was a good few moons ago and things may have changed!!!!!???!!!!!!

 

[Jenna500]

Re the number, it might not be his year of birth, it might just be his personal number from the stud.

My Lui is a holsteiner and he has 97 on him, and it represents the number foal he was at the stud. (He was born in 1999). So your guy might just be the 87th foal born at his stud.

I would do a search of brands on the internet - I managed to track down a friend's horse, sold to her as a TB but had a brand on his rump, turned out he was a bavarian warmblood!

 

[horse4lee]

Im sorry, I cannot be of much help, but just to say you have done a fab job with him. He is a handsome boy, who, no doubt is treated like a King. Bless him he's lucky to have such dedicated owners. GOOD LUCK!

 

[zoeshiloh]

I think I might know this horse, and I really, really hope I am wrong!! After I saw the picture I was going to ask you about his brand, and whether it had the number 8 in it!! Then just read above post...

There was a horse kept at the same yard as Ben a few years back - he was the spitting image of your boy. He was called Harry. The lady bought him as he was semi retired, and was twenty - he had done a lot in his day, eventing, dressage etc, and was very well schooled, but she just wanted a safe hacking partner. She had to sell him to a dealer less than a year later as her marraige broke up and she could not afford to keep him. That was a few years ago now. I am going to try and get hold of her and see if she has any pictures, or more info on his brand, but I have to say, as soon as I saw the picture I was sure it was Harry. I will do some digging for you.

 

[nativetyponies]

OMW!

So the 87 might relate to his year of birth then?

He does look older than the OP suggested

 

[Cuffey]

Loss of use is an L in a circle

Have a look at brands in this link

http://www.horsedata.co.uk/horse_brands.htm

 

[nativetyponies]

this is like stag horns..

Baden Wurttemburg:

Pferdezuchtverband Baden-Württemberg e.V.
Heinrich-Baumann-Straße 1-3
D-70190 Stuttgart
Tel: 0049-7 11 - 16 65 50
Fax: 0049-7 11 - 1 66 55 20

Pferdesportverband Baden-Württemberg

The branding numbers on the horses left hindquarters are part of the life identity number of the horse. For example:

Life identity number: DE 473 73207 32 09
DE - Country of origin
473- Association within the country of origin (473 Baden-Württemberg, for horses born before 2000, 373)
73207- a random number
32 - branding number (random)
09 - Year of birth
The life identity number is unique for every horse.

 

[odd1]

loss of use is a freeze mark brand, i think the OP is meaning that the brand is a breed brand ie hot branded
hope you find out the info you want about him

 

[brighteyes]

Whatever he's done, whoever he belonged to and however old he is, take good care of him and do the right thing by him. It sounds like it's about time someone did. From what you say, you love him to distraction anyway and I hope you find only good news. He has a very kind look about him and those who have let him down in the past should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[alainax]

Hes lucky to have found you - I hope yous have fun together!

On the age thing, I was told by mey vet, farrier and dentist that my horse was 15 ( same age as me at the sime). But one very experience yard owner said he was well into his twenties ( i thought she just didnt like me)

He was fit healthy and I have many red ribbons and trophies from him

I rode him between the ages of 11 and 21 ( his and mine) and then retired him as I coulndt keep his condition up enough to ride.
Last yeat his condition plummited and he had to be PTS, The vet said it was a testament to his long life and reckoned he was well into his 30's possibly early 40's!!!)

So if the Vet and YO were correct, id been riding and competing him successfully from his 20's into his 30's.

What im trying to say is, even if he does turn out to be older than you and other thought - It doesnt mean you wont have many hapy years together.

One thign Ryan did have that ive not yet found in "younger" horses, is a deep sense of wisdom and knowledge. Like he knew the world inside out. He taught me to ride and bond with a horse the way no human could have.

Good luck!

 

[samandcasper]

I think I might know this horse, and I really, really hope I am wrong!! After I saw the picture I was going to ask you about his brand, and whether it had the number 8 in it!! Then just read above post...

There was a horse kept at the same yard as Ben a few years back - he was the spitting image of your boy. He was called Harry. The lady bought him as he was semi retired, and was twenty - he had done a lot in his day, eventing, dressage etc, and was very well schooled, but she just wanted a safe hacking partner. She had to sell him to a dealer less than a year later as her marraige broke up and she could not afford to keep him. That was a few years ago now. I am going to try and get hold of her and see if she has any pictures, or more info on his brand, but I have to say, as soon as I saw the picture I was sure it was Harry. I will do some digging for you.

AWWWWWW thts great this might not even be the same horse yet am im crying lol stupid me i really really hope its the same boy, dont worrie hes not in tht state now he bleeds me dry with his food and hay lol and i love him with a great passion there is no way any worries with him now ahhhh i hope it is .... i have a pic of his brands i will upload them and also a pic of our hacklast night.... casper does fit the discpriction he is still quite well schooled he knows everything i ask of him and is a wonderfull upbeat ride so not to sure on this age thing as hes only been in work a bit, i have also read up tht the numbers will be either age or foal number.... he lookes like a spanish horse when hes ridden and moves his legs like one ??? will upload ppics in a sec

 

[samandcasper]

alainax thank you and ur horse is lovley, and no way would i ever get rid of him because of his age he works perfectly when ridden not lazy or sluggish so im going to carry on riding him jump BUT only if he copes with it even if he was 11/13 or 30... he's my baby and an expensive one even if a pet only but hes worth every penny xx

 

[samandcasper]

sorry to keep adding lol

the 87 is on its own on the left side and the horns l and number looks either 2 numbers or 3 and another number/letter xxx cant find the pics but will get some xx

from 3 days ago on our photoshoot

yesterdays hack/photoshoot

SMALL VID OF ME RIDING HIM B4 HIS BACK WAS DONE
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=60229&id=1619714984#!/video/video.php?v=1545942646449

 

[samandcasper]

thank you lee hes my baby <3

 

[pixi]

this speaks volumes to me...

my guess would be is he came over from holland, possibly a meat market and the Dealer has spun you a yarn ..sadly, it happens quite often

Have a look at the H & H adverts online..they go back months.."if" he was bought from someone advertising in H & H then i'm pretty sure you'd find it.

Then i would get your vet to give him a real passport, as the one you have probably isn't even his.

would have a chip if imported

 

[pixi]

the is a british trekenan society with 2 stags horns n a v under them .just yhaoo horse brands n a web site comes up with all the warmblood brands think if he was imported he would have a chip implant.unless the vet missed it

 

[samandcasper]

his marking looks like this (L) the L is in the centre not below but have a few poss bout 5 things on each ( and ) then a number im sure 1st 1 is a 3 cant make other one then other side is just 87 nothing else,

i have tried googling it but havent found his ones i have seen one slight like it but it's..... c) and the ) has the horn things of the side but nothing else xx