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[SpruceRI]

A loss of use mark is an 'L' inside a circle.

The other numbers may be his freeze brand.

He may well have been dapple grey or dark grey when he was marked and therefore it would've showed up better. As he's aged the brand wouldn't show up as much unless he was re-freezemarked and the brand was held on longer to completely kill off the hair folicles and therefore make the numbers completely bald.

When I had my Shetland originally freezemarked on his back he was blue roan, but as he aged he went white and you could no longer see the mark, so I had him re-done with the same mark on his shoulder, but this time those marks are bald.

Can you send us a photo of the brand?

 

[samandcasper]

yep will get pic's today when i go yard xx

 

[TallyHo123]

Sorry dont know anything, but he sounds like he has gone to a fab home
good on you and he's stunning

 

[wildwest]

any news zoeshilo ? sounded promising.

 

[JaneyP]

Sorry no info here just wanted to say how nice it is that he has found such a loving home with you, and it seems to me that it doesnt matter his age with you and that your love is unconditional such a lovely story; and one lucky boy he looks so happy with you xx

 

[jhoward]

he looks like a lipizzaner to me.. they often carry the l brand depending on where born etc. have a google but if he is he may well be traceable.

 

[samandcasper]

Sorry no info here just wanted to say how nice it is that he has found such a loving home with you, and it seems to me that it doesnt matter his age with you and that your love is unconditional such a lovely story; and one lucky boy he looks so happy with you xx

thank you janey i couldnt care if he was 100 and was costing me a bomb in vet cost he is trualy a dream boy and i do love him so much its unreal i've only had him 3 half months lol still not to sureon his age as had someone else look at his teeth yesterday and they have said with out me saying anything to be about 12 xxx im not to sure if i posted it any where in this post but i have allways said from day 1 and more so when i ride him or watched my friend ride him he reminds me so much of a spanish horse now hes more fitter he works better and he keeps doing this weird thing with his leg when going into canter like he lifts it up and hold its up then graces of into a lovely canter xx i will google now see what i can find xx

 

[brighteyes]

I'm still hoping for brand pics.

 

[spottydottypony]

What a nice story. It doesnot matter how old he is as long as you love and want him.. His condition has improved as you can see by the pics. Similar thing happened to me. I got a 16 yrold horse on loan really poor condtion, but a wonderful horse. Got his teeth done and the dentist said he was more like 26! I was shocked but we still hacked out until he injured his hock in the field two years ago.. I would never part with him (had him 7 years). His owner hasnt seen him in 7 years when she discovered how old he really was (im sure she knew). Good luck with the tracing he looks a lovely horse x

 

[samandcasper]

i will get the pic's 2 night i promise lol my phone died last night and me loan girl didnt get down till late so had no other phone,,

thats right spottydottypony, love him millions and wanted him from the second i walked onthe yard where igot him from lol xx

 

[RuthnMeg]

he looks like a lipizzaner to me.. they often carry the l brand depending on where born etc. have a google but if he is he may well be traceable.

I agree with this.

Whatever his past, its a credit to you to take on such a lovely looking horse. All the best.

 

[ISHmad]

Have just seen your latest photos Samandcasper. What a change in him! You are working wonders with your gorgeous boy. Wish all horses could be lucky enough to find such a caring owner as you.

 

[CeeBee]

Any more news yet? Would be so lovely to hear a happy ending (or in this case - new beginning).

 

[snopuma]

snopuma.. can u tell me why u think he looks in his 20s ? i have a 24 year old sec d mare and ppl mistake her for a 10 year old on how she looks and rides jumps ect, u have to remember he so under nurished and underweight its going to make him look old i thought the same when he was delivered and i had the run to do as i please with him but i have fed him on oil, garlic chaff, freeze pony nuts and blue chip twice a day but for the 1st 3ish weks he had 4 smaller meals of tht a day with 2-3 huge haynets bulging with hay every night... tht wasnt ment to come across as me being rude xx[/QUOTE]

Its just that I have a 30 year old and yours has the old dips above the eyes, its very telltale of an older horse and mine didn't get his dips until he was 24, that with the very light coat, which a horse who is grey would be 15+, also ask any vet teeth at 12 to 25 are hard to tell, hope this doesn't offend, its purely observational, and we have all heard of horses turning out to be much older at some point, I truly hope I am very wrong and your horse has just to return to optimum weight and health, good luck xxx

 

[zoeshiloh]

Quick Update...

I have looked through what photo's I have on the PC and cannot find a single one with Harry in - I think that the majority of photos I took at that time were before I got a digital camera, so have asked my parents to look through the box of photos still in my old bedroom at their house.

I am trying to track down Harry's previous owner (that I knew) and show her the pictures/try and find out if she knows more about these brands, but so far am hitting dead ends, as everyone I speak to doesn't know where she ended up.

I will keep searching though, and update you all when I know anything. It might not be the same horse at all, but they sound and look so similar!

 

[JessandCharlie]

Could the brand be a farmkey thing?

 

[The Virgin Dubble]

he does have some very weird brandings on him but its under where the saddle goes on both sides this is why i think he was intended for meet one side looks like 2 stag horns and in the middle a L then after tht is says 2 numbers then on the other side it says 87

Is the brand like this?

 

[LEXIS-MAGIC]

As far as the microchip thing goes, I do know a very unscrupulous dealer who imports (mostly meat) horses from Belgium as riding horses and scans then removes the chips himself, he knows when and where to dock so he doesnt get checked and has even transported injured horses and stallions with no paperwork. He has also been known to rechip and repassport horses with ones he has kept out of the horses he has previously sent for meat. Some horses had chips and passports for one age and breed and brands for another, unfortunately there is still a market over here for them as many novice owners dont seem to check.
WHW had been informed but he changes his lorry regularly and he wasnt caught as it is still going on.
Sorry for the waffle, my point being, the lack of microchip doesnt necessarily mean he hasnt been imported.
Well done for doing such a good job with him x

 

[Unpaid Groom]

Ditto the false chip thing, happens all too often, they implant saddle or dog chips

He looks fantastic though, you've done him proud, good luck with your search

 

[Doncella]

This horse has now got the owner he deserves and I applaud you.
However was there not a similar case reported in H&H re a coloured Dutch mare and I think she was blind in one eye and had been badly injured sustaining broken ribs at one point, had been sold as much younger than she was and had been purchased originally at a meat sale in Holland then fetched up with a kind home over here.
Dealers who do this are plain evil.

 

[EAST KENT]

Looks a def. Lippizaner to me,love to hear the end to this tale of mystery

 

[Fantasy_World]

After reading through this thread I too am intrigued as to who this horse is. He is a lovely boy and the OP has done exceptionally well judging by the photos.
I can understand why she has fallen in love with him. He is very lucky to have a kind owner who loves him and will do whatever they can to give him a good home.
I would like to wish her all the very best for the future x

 

[Tinseltoes]

After reading through this thread I too am intrigued as to who this horse is. He is a lovely boy and the OP has done exceptionally well judging by the photos.
I can understand why she has fallen in love with him. He is very lucky to have a kind owner who loves him and will do whatever they can to give him a good home.
I would like to wish her all the very best for the future x

well-said

 

[samandcasper]

awww thank you everyone it means alot it really does, im not just saying this because of u all being horse lovers to BUT he is my world, and is the best dessision i have made in a long time <3 i have the pic's of his branding im going to try mums comp now and i also have some new ones of my baby i will put up see what u think now as these are up to date

im having some confidance issues with him at the mo, few weeks ago i was riding in the school and a lady with a horse box in tow sped past not seeing us and scared the life out of him and since then hes been nervouse and wont move from the gate, i had some advise from a lovely lady last night who does parelli and is learning healing ect, and it worked i managed to get him away from the gate for a few trots lol she also said he is showing black and wont talk to her, im going to have the proper lady out shes a spritulist and healer as i'd love to know if he can tell me whats happened to him ect and what he wants from me as his owner now, as the git bag gets away with everything as i just cant bring my self to tell him off i see it as when he drags me to his food, what if he got his beating scars from doing tht to who ever hurt him he might see me as the same and i cant bear for him to feel like tht ever again in his life xxxx thanks again for reading, me reading them last few post chocked me and brought a tear to my eye

 

[Snowysadude]

samandcasper do you have pics of the branding lol? Hes a lovely horse

 

[samandcasper]

YESSSSS i finay have them lol mums comp wasnt working prop.... right

this is the (L) 35 or 36 OR 38 CANT QUITE TELL WHAT ONE on one side

THEN THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE THE 78

AND JUST BECAUSE HES SO HANDSOME <3 WELL WITH OUT THE STABLE STAINS LOL

 

[beeswax]

What a lovely story and i hope you find out all you need to know about him. Do you think his bit is a tad high up in his mouth each photo of him he seems to be gagging a bit like the bit could be dropped a hole or two. Good luck!!

 

[Sanolly]

Wow what a difference in his weight! Well done! I wouldn't let him get away with things though as you will end up with a big horse walking over the top of you! You don't have to be harsh just firm but fair (like you would your son!)

 

[JessandCharlie]

Is it worth asking in the breeding section about his branding? They might be able to tell you more!

 

[samandcasper]

in the last pic hes munching his hay but i will drop the bit see what happens he pulls faces when i turn him left and right so might well be its to tight xx will let u know if it works lol and thank you beeswax and sanolly xx x