URGENT PLEASE READ - Horse Neglect Stamford, Lincs.

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There are two horses very close by to my house in Stamford, Linconshire, that are in a severely emaciated condition. I found them on Sunday, and immediately phoned the RSPCA cruelty line, but as yet nothing has been done (I phoned again today, but got no further with them)

The local police do not want to know - they have told me to badger the RSPCA

I have taken photos of them - please see for yourself here:

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As far as i can tell (i have had a quick scout around the field they are in) they have no access to food, clean water, or any shelter. They are outdoors and exposed with no horse rugs. They hoofs are nasty and cracked, and one of them is missing most of its teeth. I tried feeding it some carrots, but pieces of carrot were falling it out of its mouth into the dirt, which he still desperately attempted to eat.

I know virtually nothing about horses and horse welfare, but it is clear they are not healthy.

My thoughts posting on here was either some advice, or perhaps some other caring people to contact the RSPCA and badger them into doing something.

Thanks for reading.

Andy
 
hi they are really in a desperate state some of the worst i have seen if you go on the world horse welfare website there will be a number on there they are the best people to phone
 
Andy2481, Good for you, keep calling the RSPCA, they do take a bit of time to take action as they have to try and find who owns them serve them and get the police presence to rescue them, but they will. just keep calling them and get anyone else local to call tehm too. the more peopel that call the better.
 
It would be best to go to world horse welfare instead, rspca are to busy pestering the likes of me, who has 3 perfectly healthy horses when they should be spending their time and money on animals like those you have found.
Poor horses, well done for spotting them, hopefully things can be sorted out
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Oh my goodness!! How is that chestnut still alive?!
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Well done for being so pro-active. Yet another case of the RSPCA doing sweet FA!
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As posted above the WHW is a brilliant organisation, who should be far more helpful in saving those poor horses.


If at all possible, please keep us updated. xx
 
I agree with the others, World Horse Welfare would be the better people to call.

Thank you so much for taking the time to care for these horses.

Please let us know how you get on.
 
Bl**dy hell - I'm surprised that chestnut horse is still alive it is so emaciated.
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I would definitely email the photos to both the RSPCA and World Horse Welfare (formerly ILPH) so that they can see just how serious the situation is, and then back it up with a phone call to both. (Trouble is that some people exaggerate when reporting neglected horses but a photo leaves no doubt about the animals' condition). Those horses need help immediately.
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I am sure you are dealing with their immediate needs such as water and perhaps hay. If you would like a donation for some hay or anything I am happy to help. In this event, please pm me. It can't be much but I am sure will help in the interim.

I fear the chestnut will be on the floor shortly - truly shocking pictures.

Please keep us posted.
 
i would also suggest that you email those pictures to WHW so they get an idea about how urgent the case is.
Please let us know how you get on if at all possible
 
Oh my, they look terrible! Good for you to take all this time over these poor animals and go to all that effort, when you're not even into horses! The world could do with more people like you. Good luck, maybe in the meantime offer them a bucket or two of water? Let us know xxx
 
phone all your local vets and ask them to report them. send photos etc. keep on phoning rspca, ilph, whw, local animal sancturies. phone the local papers. contact the nearby businesses, the land ownwer the council, just keep rattling all the cages and someone should sort this out.
 
OMG that is absolutely shocking. How can they have got into this condition and no-ones noticed.

thank goodness you are acting on their behalf but I don't hold much hope for any of them.

definately phone email (preferably) local papers and as others have mentioned ILPH WHW and demand to know what the hell the RSPCA are doing.
 
I know they need feeding, but i wouldn't give a lot for one because they won't be used it it from the looks of them and for another the rspca sometimes seem to stoop to ridiculous pettiness if the animals have food and water (although i've not seen horses in this state which are still alive before). Definately give WHW a ring, they check things out pretty quickly. Other charities seem reluctant to get involved if the rspca are already 'dealing' with it. I would also second the papers route and telling them about how useless the rspca are being. Ring WHW now- they will answer or reply to a message asap.
 
andy, can I suggest you change your post heading to include your location, there well be someone on here that can come and give you more immediate help and people often spot their locations, I have posted about it on other areas of the forum as there are people who don't come into NL much but maybe able to help you.
 
Hi

thanks for all of your replies

I have emailed both the RSPCA and the World Horse Welfare with the pictures. The WHW helpline closed at 6.30pm, so I have left a message and get my partner to givce them another ring and chase it up first thing tomorrow morning.

In the meantime - are there things I should / shouldnt be doing? Are apples and carrots dangerous to a delicate/emaciated horse's constitution? I won't be able to get my hands on any hay certainly for the next day or so, but water i can and will do.

The local newspaper is a good idea, they might even publish the photo's for more publicity

I will keep you posted, if i find anything else out about their condition and future.

(I didn't mention that there is a small dapple-grey pony in the same field as these two, not seen in the photos - who looks to be in a good condition - quite fat and sprightly - who certainly seems to be the alpha male of the three ...

... and to add insult to injury, there is a tiny Falabella (or so my girlfriend tells me) in the adjoining field (I thought it was a goat from a distance!) - with a big pile of apples right next to the gate where the other horses are kept - literally 2 feet from their noses. I was going to move most of the apples to give to the starved ones but is acidic fruit a good idea?)

Thanks

Andy
 
I nearly wrote that it is all too easy to point the finger, as some of you have seen the pitucre of my boy, however, my boy is much fatter now, and hopefully able to go through another winter.

This poor boy stands little to no chance now. He is far too gone now.

Unless he get some stabling or at least shelter and rugs he will not see the end of october, TOPS.

Keep at them, well done for saying something, The WHW is the best bet, or the ILPH, my experience of the RSPCA is do not bother, they more than often do not, only my opinion and not the views of this forum .
 
Just to say, if you haven't already found this, the welfare line for the WHW is 08000 480180 - probably quicker than the other number.

Water would be my most urgent concern for them, if there's none at all available. I guess the chestnut, the thinnest one, is the one without teeth and therefore can't manage the grass that's actually in the field. Poor bloody things.
 
definitely sort water

don't move the apples to the starved ones they probably won't do them any good. starved horses like that need careful managment. am not sure what to suggest food wise, I would hang on and sort water not sure what others think?
 
OMG that is shocking, poor poor horses.
Please keep trying and well done for taking the time to post and ask for help. Lets hope somone will take action.
Please keep us posted
Debs x
 
I wouldn't give apples or carrots as they have a lot of sugar and these guys might not be able to handle it. Diarrhea could be pretty detrimental the them. Do you know of any local yards or farms? I'm sure if you told them and/or showed them the horses there would be someone willing to donate or sell you some hay. A small bale would only be a couple of pounds any way.

From the sounds of the one with no teeth maybe these are an elderly herd, but they should never ever have been left to get into this state. Hope someone saves them in time.

Just as a guide i rang WHW about some tethered youngsters who had plenty of grass and nice big bellies but no water, they said someone would be out within 2 days, so they should be able to get someone out within the next day or 2.
 
Hi Andy,
Well done for noticing and doing something about it, those horses definitely owe you one.
As others have said the WHW will be the best ones to help you out and hopefully will be with you tomorrow, they will then do the most appropriate thing regarding feeding.

In the interim, if you are able to make sure they have water that is the most important thing.

Feed wise I would hold off on the apples/carrots. The best thing for them would probably be high fibre horse nuts well soaked in water to make a mash, this will be easier for them to eat and digest - however too late in the day now so I would wait for WHW advise in the morning unless there is a local HHO'er who might be able to contact you and help tonight.
 
If the chestnut does have hardly any teeth then I can't imagine that there's much that could be done foodwise for him without his being taken into professional care - there is some grass there, after all, and presumably hay will be even more difficult for him to eat. Hopefully WHW will do something asap.
 
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