URGENT PLEASE READ - Horse Neglect Stamford, Lincs.

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Andy,

well done.

Have you warned your neighbours that parking might be at a premiun tomorrow morning........

Lets just hope, that because of you and Chloe, these animals are spending their last night alone.

You should be really proud of yourselves!

I am here at work until 7am but if I done hear anything before I head home, good luck tomorrow!
 
To be honest, it is more the vets I am angry with than the RSPCA. If the vet had said the horses were in unacceptable condition the RSPCA would have organised the police and horseboxes to remove them there and then the same day. If the vet said they were ok the RSPCA officer would be relatively powerless to do anything other than try and get another vets practise to come out and say they were unacceptable. And you can be sure their boss would not let that particular officer go to the expense of getting another vet.

Having worked in welfare it can be hard to get a vet to attend if the animals are known to be owed by travellers. Sometimes the RSPCA has to get vets from hundreds of miles away to attend which can take a few days as the vet may need to take a whole day off work and most vets cannot drop everything in their practice for a job that will pay almost nothing. I am NOT sticking up for the RSPCA. This situation is a real disgrace, but sometimes it can get a few days to get a vet out. No vet = no removal so the vet is essential. So with the best will in the world it may not be possible to have these horses seen by a vet and removed tomorrow.

What sort of vet thinks this treatment of horses is acceptable? I am horrified.

Good luck to everyone going out tomorrow and keep us all updated. I will log on tomorrow night to see what has happened. I wish I could do more but I am in Hungary. My ex boss is compassionate though and as long as I can get hold of her, she will help.
 
I think we have to reframe from to much from finger pointing at anyone......EXCEPT THE OWNER.

The main purpose is to get these animals to a safe haven and once that is done then the accused can be taken to task.

I would like to think that we could at least get these horses fed and rugged tomorrow. I get the feeling that not many of those attending would walk away without that being done (after the charities say so)

The Press may well be interested, especially so soon after other serious neglect cases. fingers x
 
Only just seen and read this whole thread, was nearly in tearsat the photos then could not stop the tears at all the support
hope these poor animals do get the help they need, and the RSPCA need to be publically shamed about this it is a complete disgrace, hopefully the press will go to town on them.
Please can anyone who is going in the morning keep us updated as i am sure many of us will be there with our hearts but are too far away to be there bodily
 
Apologies if I missed it but has the official Horse and Hound website/magazine picked up anything on this? Likely they cannot state or publish events or stories without official information but hopefully it will be so.
 
Let's all write in to RSPCA, friends, copy to government.

Ooops, nearly forgot, let's all e-mail Jeremy Vine, seems like only way things get done nowadays! Telegraph is pretty good at exposing crap, but i still think Jeremy is best!

It's late now, but let's all e-mail him tomorrow, bring horse neglect out in open (wonder who'll dare to defend actions of assholes?) BS X
 
Now off to Burghley armed with the photos and I am going to see just how many people I can find to get something happening. Will let you know later if I find anyone. I am over there all day. RSPCA officers always seem to be around making sure no one leaves dogs in cars. See if I can find one. Will also visit any others BHS H&H and any journalists that I can find.
 
Have the authorities learned nothing from the Spindles Farm case?

Well done Andy in bringing this to the attention of the horse world and to everyone who is getting involved in the 10am show of strength!

Please keep this thread updated. Hx
 
Well done guys
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i'm too far away to be of any practical use but you'll all be in my thoughts. Poor, poor horses
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And if we all keep posting on here, it should reach the most popular forum topics in H&H.

I am beginning to wonder about this Welfare Act and its new superpowers. and don't understand how or why there are still cases like this cropping up where animals have obviously been in poor condition for an extended period of time and NOBODY appears to have done a thing about it!

Criminal.

I'll be keeping my eye on things this morning - well, lunchtime as I'm at work til 1. Good luck everyone.
 
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This is slightly off at a tangent, but could someone contact admin and have them remove Andy's personal details from this post. Andy, this is a very public forum and I worry that the owners of these horses could be nasty characters, you have given mobile no. street name etc. I think it would be prudent to remove these. I'm not sure if you can still edit them out tho'...
 
I kinda reckoned we would be a most popular topics anyway, wondering how HH were going to word it

Siennamum, admin cannot removed those details without removing the threads around them but I will PM them in case they haven't been already
 
v v well done Andy for bringing this to everyone's attention, we all really can't thank you enough.
i very sincerely hope that that is the last night those poor horses will spend wet, cold and starving.
i, too, want to know which vet described them as 'okay' so recently. if it is true that vets don't want to go to cases such as this, and that the RSPCA has to get them from a different area, it makes me think the vets in question are in it for the £££s and are not animal lovers at all.
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the RSPCA has plenty of money, perhaps it needs to employ its own vets to cover every area so they are always available as soon as necessary. (btw, i think if you knew how much the RSPCA bigwigs are paid, you would be shocked to the core...)
are they still destroying a million dogs a year in the U.K.? that was their claim a few years ago.... compared to other charities who never destroy a healthy dog.
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i'll be going to the field before going on to Burghley, if there's anything i need to bring other than my very opinionated and outraged self, please someone let me know by pm, i'll check before i go.
 
Would it be possible if anyone sees my post this morning and before I go to work, to PM me for my number to text me with any updates I will be at work without internet
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Thanks
 
yup, think I'd be scared by an outraged and opinionated kerilli so that'll do!

hope it all goes well guys, will await updates, was thinking about them first thing this morning.
 
Just a thought re publicity. How about emailing Katy Price AKA Jordan - she has a bloody huge publicity machine and certainly got behind the Amersham debacle - it may be worth it if anyone has got an email addy for her
 
Have followed this since I was sent a text message about it. Didn't/couldn't post last night as I was too emotional about it all. I would have been calling for a lynch mob to hunt down the owners to teach them a lesson.

Now I've slept on it (with difficulty) I am restrained enough to say Thanks to Andy for bringing it to our attention and also thanks to everyone else who is able to offer help etc for the poor horses. In spite of everything they've been through I bet they have lovely natures and still trust people.

Good luck with the meeting at the field and raising the case at Burghley today. Look forward to reading an update.

I thought the Animal Act had been amended to allow RSPCA and other welfare agencies to act before the horses got into this state in the first place ?

Call me a cynic if you like but does anyone else think that the RSPCA will act now that there has been so much attention has been drawn to it.
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Will be thinking of everyone today and hope that it all goes very well and and gets the required action
 
Here, here! Ellies_mum2!!

Hope that the RSPCA do act! Also, that someone will ask those very questions! Why were these horse allowed to get to that state in the first place, without welfare organisations intervention??

Thinking of everyone today and hope they get the attention, and the proper care required for these poor animals
 
well i finally cought up.
Just been looking at the other pictures andy posted im speechless. The worrying thing is that when ive took pictures of thin horses before they dont look as bad on the photograph as they actually are. These two must be in a pretty desperate state.
Good luck to everyone,your all amazing.
WELL DONE ANDY
 
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Just a thought re publicity. How about emailing Katy Price AKA Jordan - she has a bloody huge publicity machine and certainly got behind the Amersham debacle - it may be worth it if anyone has got an email addy for her

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The people involved in Operation Esther in the past also have a huge publicity field, so wont need Jordan! Think she's got enough on her plate at the moment too!!!

By the way - Morning everyone, have had a call to say horses ok, shivering but ok..... will be on our way up there soon
 
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By the way - Morning everyone, have had a call to say horses ok, shivering but ok..... will be on our way up there soon

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Glad they are ok, last night all I had on my mind was whether the chestnut would be able to endure another night.
Thanks for posting.
 
I'm pretty damned sure that RSPCA will act if there is enough fuss made, they certainly won't want bad publicity. Please though let's remember to keep things civil, though I'm sure I don't really need to say that.

Anyway, best let Michelle have her laptop back and see you there soon!
 
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Just a thought re publicity. How about emailing Katy Price AKA Jordan - she has a bloody huge publicity machine and certainly got behind the Amersham debacle - it may be worth it if anyone has got an email addy for her

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I've emailed KP's fan club. As you say, high profile!

I've also emailed someone in France who used to be a journalist. Heavily involved in horses. Asked if she can do anything that will get the world's attention.

The new Animal Welfare Act is meant to stop this sort of thing from happening, and if if it does, the Act is meant to give others the power to do something about it without fear of further harming the horses futures.
 
I have not really slept, wide awake now on here checking it al the time for anymore news....i'm sooo concerened for them...couldn't bring myslef to look at the other pics....the 1st lot are sticking in my head as it is.

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE GOING THIS AM PLEASE UPDATE ASAP!!!!
I've added link also to FB.....

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