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Just curious about this really....

Does anyone not vaccinate at all? Vaccinate yearly? Homeopathic vaccs? Any other variation?

With ours, we vaccinate as pups, then do the booster then dont do any further ones until about 5yrs or so. A LOT of the basenji owners refuse to vaccinate at all or use homeopathic "vaccinations" and I can sort of understand why as all three of mine had a horrific reaction to the vaccs, however I do feel the puppy ones are important.

Though, i think it has been found that the vaccination can last for about 7 years or more, which is why we dont do the yearly vaccs.
 
Personally think all pups should be vax for the initial immunity. After that its the owners call, I think there is evidence that the jabs are effective up to three years and vets I've met have have reservations about yearly boosters.

Nosodes or homeopathic vax are the same as not vaccinating, you rely on herd immunity to protect your dog. Vaccines are an incredibly powerful medical tool with a bad reputation in some circles.:unfortunately some adverse reactions will occur, but luckily these are rare and i would always have at least the initial ones done for any of my pets or kids;
 
Like you I have the initial puppy ones done, then first booster. I continue to have lepto annually (lots of rats round here:() but the others biannually, and then once they get to 8 or 9 only do lepto. I saw a dog with distemper once and it was horrible. I also remember when parvo first happened, had a litter go down with it, by some miracle they all survived but it was touch and go for a while. For that reason I would never not vaccinate.
 
Yes yearly, insurance won't pay out otherwise. It's not alot really considering it's only once per year and couldn't live with the guilt if I stopped and they got parvovirus or whatever
 
Mine have had puppy ones and first year vaccination, then only periodically boosters for when they went into kennels.
They are insured, the company just won't pay out if the dog was found to contract one of the diseases that could have been vaccinated against. So my dogs could have any other condition that we can't vaccinate against and still be able to make a claim.
 
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My 2 Dobes are done yearly (boosters) its a condition of Insurance and my adoption from Dobermann Welfare.

My lancashire Heelers which I had quite a few years ago I stopped vacc. at 5yrs of age apart from Lepto yearly.I dont think vacc. yearly after a certain age is warranted and feel it comprimises their immune system but thats just Imo.
 
those of you saying you do yearly, are you fully vaccinating yearly?! My vets no longer do this, they only do dhppi 3 yearly now.
 
Oz was vaccinated as a puppy and annually till he was 7yrs and I haven't had him vaccinated for the last 3 years.

I had a suspicion that the fat lumps he had were linked to the vaccinations (he has had 2 ops, when he got a lump in areas that was going to be difficult to remove if it got big and could start to affect his mobility - the vet also removed his others at the same time). His last op was just over 2yrs ago and *touches wood* he has no new lumps.

I keep meaning the call the vets to see if they can blood test to check immunity as would rather do that and top up if necessary.
 
Mine are vaccinated every year. First of all there was a puppy that died of parvo over the road from us, obviously dobermans and rotties are very suspectible to parvo, one thing to watch for when buying one get your own injections done and make sure the mother is uptodate with them. Secondly my dog groomer insists they have been vaccinated.
 
We use Nobi Vac vaccines and vaccinate with a 3 year cycle so year 1 would be DHPPI and Lepto then the following two years we would use PI and Lepto. The DHP is licensed for 3 years so no need for annual injections for these.

They say black and tan breeds are more susceptible to parvo even when vaccinated so i wouldnt risk not vaccinating having a rottie myself. I dont know why that is either.

For people worried about overvaccinating or vaccine reactions i would recommend titre testing rather than not vaccinating at all, at least then you could see if your pet has any immunity. Thats just my opinion and im sure not everyone would agree xxxx
 
I've just checked and ours are on the Nobivac schedule as well. It's a condition of R's adoption and of both of their insurance policies that they are vaccinated.

Plus I have to put them in kennels for a day and night next month while we attend a wedding (:() and they will undoubtedly want proof of vaccination - someone remind me, how far in advance do they have to have the kennel cough vaccine before they can go in?
 
blackcob said:
I've just checked and ours are on the Nobivac schedule as well. It's a condition of R's adoption and of both of their insurance policies that they are vaccinated.

Plus I have to put them in kennels for a day and night next month while we attend a wedding (:() and they will undoubtedly want proof of vaccination - someone remind me, how far in advance do they have to have the kennel cough vaccine before they can go in?
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Mine don't get done now. They were done up to 2 years when my Setter got meningitis and she is now not allowed to be in case she has another hyperimmune response. As she doesn't get done neither does my other. Personally I think we over vaccinate and it causes problems. We, personally, don't live in a high risk area. The pain is that we can't get them in borders if we go on hols so we have to grovel round my friend:D My vet advised me that the homeo remedies are useless.
 
I'm glad i found this thread..I'm really torn what to do at the mo & was about to start a new thread(which i still might if this doesn't show as I'm posting late) my rescue boy had his puppy innocs (apparently-and so not sure if full puppy jab or some or none, but will at least have had the breeders initial ones pre leaving mum)

So presuming he's had those and is 3 this aug, I am incredibly worried. I went to vet the other day to get wormers & the vet nurse was one of those that is in training to be a doctors reception dragon-you can't get a word in & she knows EVERYTHING...anyway.before i start saying nasty words and shaking & having steam jet out of my ears & nostrils, I'll breath & carry on! I am not a lover of giving anything chemical unless necessary and I do understand protection is necessary..but the reactions scare me, particularly as he is hyper stressed with a big fear of new people, so would in theory have an elevated risk of reaction. the vets have said fine to come in & do even more desensitizing etc, tho i do get the feeling the reception are snarling & hate me..the cowbag said categorically no dog ever in the entire universe has ever had a reaction ever & never ever will & she should know she's been a vet nurse 23 years..funny as I asked her age (33!) clever girl!!!! annyway. I was contemplating bloods as if wormer doesn't work as he suddenly dropped weight rear rend & little ribbier than I would like tho it could be a combination of things -the heat & then heavy rain, the extra walks we had been able to acheive (found new safe area) and then 10 days of extra stress separation while I was shearing (one per eve due to being a damaged creaky wreck)and or worms. he is otherwise happy healthy looking & other than his normal stresses / fear of new dogs/new people & ptsd from previous separation anxiety which I'm gradually breaking thru slowly slowly, he has a shiney coat & bright eyes, boundless energy & is fed a completely fresh home cooked natural hollistic diet (he can't do dry or raw so this is great.)

mustn't forget to use paragraphs sorry!anyway we are rural/semi rural and don't mix very often with other dogs due to his fear & lack of stooge dogs or sensible trustworthy owners, we have rats at stables naturally, and home(neighbours don't clean chickens anywhere near enough) and have natural water/springs/streams/fords and bardgers/foxes/deer so yes we are at risk from those factors, but he is predominantly excercised on the stables land & surrounding fields i rent. So yes I think I should be vaccinating, but am dreading how etc. How does the titre work reliability wise?and is it true the reaction is heightened risk with stress or is it simply dogs that were thought to be unwell without showing symptoms yet? Vet said there have been rural cases recently who have fought horrible viruses, spent 1000's and lost the battle. I would never forgive myself if anything happened to him and would be very greatful for some sensible guidance even if its how to tame your vet/reception! I feel far more comfy about the3 plus year intervals and one of the horse vets at the practice seemed to be very understanding of what my situation with my dog is..she suggested alternates but again that was yearly.Such an in depth subject its so hard to know what to do without risking either reaction, illness from not innoculating or illness cropping up from vaccine months later.head aches but i'm guessing the length of this has made everyone elses to!!xxx
 
I've had a Heinz 57 as my first dog and she died of an autoimmune disease that attacked the red blood cells. She eventually died of heart failure at the age of 8. She had yearly vaccinations up to about six years old before the problems started. This I believe might have been linked to over vaccinating so that's why we don't do it anymore.
 
I've decided i'm no longer going to vaccinate my dogs (or my horses.) after doing a lot of research into it and speaking to my vet, which was brought about by looking into human ones after having my baby. It's more expensive, but every few years i'll have their titres checked for their immunity. And they will still get their annual check up at the vets anyway.

Do phone your insurance company and check that you're still covered (you won't be for illnesses you could have vaccinated against obviously.)

My last dog died from an autoimmune disease and my cat died from feline leukaemia within weeks of getting the vaccine. And i'm concerned about the carrier fluids and heavy metals in the animal ones which are no longer used in human vaccines as they are not safe.

I'm looking for kinder flea/worm treatments too if anyone has any suggestions. Currently use Advocate but not half as regularly as they want you to!
 
CL66 said:
I've decided i'm no longer going to vaccinate my dogs (or my horses.) after doing a lot of research into it and speaking to my vet, which was brought about by looking into human ones after having my baby. It's more expensive, but every few years i'll have their titres checked for their immunity. And they will still get their annual check up at the vets anyway.

Do phone your insurance company and check that you're still covered (you won't be for illnesses you could have vaccinated against obviously.)

My last dog died from an autoimmune disease and my cat died from feline leukaemia within weeks of getting the vaccine. And i'm concerned about the carrier fluids and heavy metals in the animal ones which are no longer used in human vaccines as they are not safe.

I'm looking for kinder flea/worm treatments too if anyone has any suggestions. Currently use Advocate but not half as regularly as they want you to!
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I'm sorry to hear this..this is exactly what worries me, let alone the innoculating while animal is stressed (ie being at vets with a new person-the all essential vet to name just one he may encounter on the visit.) the nurse in reception was adamant I was wrong and nothing had ever ever been affected by a vaccine & this makes me so angry not only do they try to brainwash clients, but are misinformed. I'm speaking to a hollistic vet and will be having his titre test and bloods taken re the weight change should it not pick up over the next 2 weeks. He will then go over the options once we know his immunity - does anyone yet know if there are any steps being taken towards safer carrier fluids and ones without the heavy metals?

re the worming, according to both Andi Brown Whole Pet Diet and Dr Dheva Khalsa's Natural Dog, pumpkin & squash seeds are great for ridding worm burdens and also if you are at all into animal self medication/zoopharmacognosy as opposed to chemical based medicines, offering sunflower oil to the dog helps. It is an indication of worm burden if the dog purges his system by having so much he makes himself sick (as they would eating grass for eg) If you go to dear old google, you will find out more directly about Caroline Ingraham the founder of zoopharmacognosy as well as her shop- www.thewildhealthshop.co.uk she will be more than happy to guide you/speak to you and will come out to any animals world wide that are in need and apparently past veterinary help - many times she has mananged to give the animal the tools (oils/herbs) to cure itself.
 
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