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My dog is sneezing lots a week after his annual booster.
Is this normal? It started when i had been out a while so thought excitement but still on going intermittently now about 5 hours later.
Will ring vets tomorrow but after peace of mind. I can feel equal air out of both nostrils and can't see anything up them.
 
Out of curosity, did the vet also give him the kennel cough vaccination (nasal drops) as part of his annual vaccinations? Is the sneezing the only symptom and is he still sneezing this morning?

As you are already going to speak to your vet about it, I wouldnt worry in this instance too much but a quick check up is always advised to be sure as is no other contact with our dogs until your vet has seen him on the off chance he has kennel cough.
 
Yes he had kennel cough up his nose.
Sneezing is the only symptom.
He has only sneezed this morning when OH got up for work and told him it was breakfast time. He got excited and sneezed he is ok now.
 
Ah that pretty much explains it. Just like us getting a flu vaccine we can sometimes get a bit unwell with it.

One of my dogs had an allergic reaction either to the vaccine itself or the carrier fluid. Her nose was swollen to at least 3 time the size then after a day or two progressed to her ears then finally she came out in sores across the back of her neck. Took best part of two weeks of anti inflamatories to get her back to normal again.

Unfortunately with some vaccinations, once your dog experiences an allergic reaction, it will only get worse the next time it is used.
 
Thanks RP. do you not use kennel cough now then?
I have a cat who was allergic with hers so she isnt jabbed now but she doesnt go anywhre. my dog goes out to training everyweek and boards at my trainers whn we are away so he needs jabs.
 
For every action, there's a reaction, and there's a growing band of vets who will now openly tell you that booster vaccinations are generally unnecessary.

40+ years ago, the initial vaccinations which we gave puppies were to protect them for the first 12 months of their lives, BY WHICH TIME, they'd built up their own immunity. With the research and the progress made, there is even less need for annual boosters, now.

The annual booster jabs are a huge part of the businesses of both vets and the drug manufacturers. I'm sorry to be a cynic, but it's the way that it is.

Alec.
 
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Both my dogs get their annual vaccinations as a puppy and then following year, after that I do the blood titre test to check their antibody levels that the vacinations vaccinate against. If their antibodies are at a sufficient enough level I do not vaccinate as there is no point in doing so despite the test costing more than the vaccines themselves. I try to keep vaccinations, worming and fleaing to an absolute minimum as I dont believe in pumping the dog full of unessacary chemicals.

As Alec has very rightly pointed out, it is a large part of any income a vet gets is in annual boosters.
 
Alec- do you inject annually or do blood test?
Thanks. Yes i am aware and some vets only do every 3 years.
My lad is only one so this was his first jab after puppy injections hence why so important.
I do think i will look into doing blood next year instead.
I too am cynical about injections hence the cats no longer having them but as dog goes out and about he needs to be covered.
 
Dizzy Christmas Pud said:
Alec- do you inject annually or do blood test?

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I don't do either. For Collies, I never even give them their first vaccs jabs. They're work dogs, they never have contact with other dogs, they very rarely go on to the public highway, and it isn't a case of laziness, I just don't think that it's necessary. It may just be luck, I realise, but in 30 years, I've never had a dog contract anything untoward.

For gundogs which will have contact with other dogs, the regime is that puppies have their first jabs to give them protection for the first 12 months, and then that's it. I'm unable to vaccinate against Kennel Cough, because it's a live vaccine and my OH has RA and cannot come into contact with any LVs.

I realise that as with others on here, I am not an immunologist, and so I don't fully understand the complexities of my argument, but so far, and touch wood, it's all worked. Should my system ever fail, then I will be brave enough to own up!!

Alec.
 
For people with Insurance it may be a condition of Insurance and they wont pay out for any treatment for Parvo if your dog is not vaccinated.

Its a condition of Dobermann Welfare that my 2 dogs have to be vaccinated but I am going to check with them as regards titres. I do think dogs are over vaccinated which in turn comprimises the immune system.
 
Watching this thread with interest as our Spaniel is coming up to needing her first set of boosters if we decide to go ahead... she is in contact with other dogs. Not sure what to do...
 
One of my vets is really open minded and rather than listening to the drug companies and trying to line his and their pockets he has done a lot of research on various subjects and here is what he has to say about vaccinating. It is well worth a read:

http://www.markelliott.co.uk/Mark_Elliott_and_Associates_Veterinary_Surgeons/Vaccination.html

If you use the Our Vision link at the top of the page you will find his well researched statements on various other subjects such as neutering. He also stocks foods such as Orijen and Wolf Tucker (a preprepared frozen RAW diet).
 
Thanks all- interesting articles- only had quick glance but will look further tomorrow.
I do think its something to really think about. Good point re insurance tho.
dobiegirl- My cats welfare place also request annual jabs but on discussion with them following her reaction they agreed not to enforce it.
 
I agree that annual vaccs aren't needed in cases where a dog has minimal or no contact with strange dogs or wild animals. I don't even think it's necessary to check the titers.

However, if you ever need to board a dog, the kennel will require proof that the dog is up to date with all the usual stuff, including the intranasal vaccine for bordatella.

Environment is a factor to consider, as well as local diseases. There's too much funk going around here to skip the annual jabs. Leptospirosis is a problem in my area; two new strains reared their ugly heads this spring. It's as deadly and hard to cure as parvo and my dogs are out every day in the muck where it's found. Lyme disease is a problem, although not too many people vaccinate for it. (Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, erlichiosis, and babesia are awful; unfortunately, there is no vaccine for those that I know of. All we can do is keep the ticks off them.) We also have a high incidence of rabies. Even pet dogs that aren't likely to come in contact with the usual species that carry it need to be up to date on their rabies vaccine; the protocol is the first shot at 4 months, a booster at one year, then every 3 years thereafter. If an unvaccinated dog comes in contact with a rabid animal, it is euthanized.

Also, dogs that work in close contact with immunocompromised individuals (e.g. therapy dogs) will need to be vaccinated according to the standard schedule since some diseases like lepto and bordatella can be passed from dog --> humans. Interestingly, however, from what I can tell there are no canine vaccines for some of the most common diseases such as babesiosis, erlichiosis, RMSF, giardia (well, there is one, but they say it's not too effective), and tularemia. The organization my dog is registered with requires annual vaccination with the usual bundle (corona, parvo, lepto, distemper, parainfluenza), rabies every 3 years, plus the intranasal bordatella every 6 months.

Interesting topic; I'm always interested in what other people do.
 
I do the two primary vaxs, a booster a year later,and then try to do a lepto yearly.One of the puppies I bred caught lepto off some pond rats,it was a rare strain ,he was vaccinated yearly.Until the insurance company realised it was a rare strain the £5000 bill was not going to be paid.If for no other reason the Insurance companies will not pay out on an unvaccinated dog.
For the sake of a small yearly outlay being made it could cost a Hell of a lot, so worth doing.Lepto is the main worry in my opnion.
 
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