Verbindend bit & 'tongue saver'

[anj789]

Is this 'tongue saver'
http://cotswoldsport.co.uk/shop/ind...ducts_id=467:e47959879945fd8d4a2dd5a54feaea24

the same as the NS Verbindend
http://www.derbyhouse.co.uk/prodshow.asp?id=726&a=srch
in shape / tongue relief action?

Just trying to find something to stop the stressy mare wanting to get her tongue over & I figure that may be the answer...

 

[KatB]

Pretty much the same! The Tongue saver is more like the Starter, but the only difference being the angle of the lozenge....

 

[flyingfeet]

Yep the tongue saver does not have the patented 45o degree angle of the NS verbindend.

However having ridden in both, I cannot really tell the difference and neither can the horse. Both stopped his tongue poking out to avoid bit pressure!

 

[vicksey]

Im not sure about the actual techinical side of things but the Verbindend was recommended to use with my cob who got his tounge over the bit a lot and he never did once with this bit, i quite like it to school in but dont have much breakage out hacking

 

[anj789]

thanks, sounds like these have the desired effect - so if pretty much the same in tongue-relief - and knowing my mare tends to get sore lips in a loose ring and can tank a bit, maybe I'll try this, the hanging cheek.

http://cotswoldsport.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_88&products_id=502

Unless anyone knows of a Verbindend / tongue relief eggbutt snaffle?...

 

[flyingfeet]

Unless anyone knows of a Verbindend / tongue relief eggbutt snaffle?...

Nope the closest you can get in eggbutt is a sprenger dynamic, but its not as shaped, so I refused to pay over £100 for one!

Instead I got dad to make the tongue saver bauchers, all because my boy is going pink and gets rubbed in a loose ring.

 

[zoon]

Does the tongue saver come in a full cheek?

 

[flyingfeet]

Erm well embarrassing story - it was supposed to, but instead muppet (me) ordered normal lozenge versions. I am not miss-popular as we now have highly expensive lozenge versions that are having to compete with cheaper more mass produced ones.

We do have pelhams and kimblewicks in tongue saver though.

 

[zoon]

Well if you ever start selling them, I am desperate for one!