Vet Fees ????

Wishful - my colleague who left last year worked out we earn £2.94 per hour, which to be quite honest I'd rather he'd not told me!

Am just going to echo what has already been stated by many. Firstly, very few vets are rich. In fact, I don't know any truly 'rich' vets, in the way I know rich doctors, dentists and lawyers. My bosses earn more money than me but aren't loaded, and certainly the large animal partners work some very long hours. I am 2 years post graduation, and earn £18,000 plus benefits (flat & car). I have just under £50,000 worth of student loans.

The issue is, from what I can see on this thread, that people perceive they are being overcharged for simple things like vaccinations/visits, but don't take into account what it actually costs to run the practice, buy equipment etc. Visit fees, consult charges, drug mark ups etc, are what earns the money to buy the x-ray machine, endoscopy, operating theatres. They also pay the nurses, who don't earn money for the practice but are needed to monitor anaesthetics and assist vets, and the receptionists who answer the phones.

The other option is that practices start charging less for things, but have fewer facilities. Which is great for the client, until your dog goes lame and it needs an x-ray - so you have to be referred to a large hospital, where you'll probably be charged £150 to walk through the door. Or your horse gets laminitis and needs foot x-rays - it might even be too lame to travel, so you have to pay for a referral vet to come out and take the x-rays, probably £250 for that before any x-rays are taken.

Unfortunately, I think rather than showing what a money obsessed country we are, I think it shows how unrealistic we are in the UK about the costs of healthcare and how much it actually costs to keep these places running. In the states, there are still plenty of people struggling to pay vets bills, except for they don't complain about it because they understand how much it would cost for themselves to be treated!
 
I agree, also the bl**dy government has caused a few more bills for everyone. A friend of mine has a very old arthritic horse that needs bute every day which she just rings the vet up for. She has now been told that due to “bute in burgers” episode they now have to come out and see the horse every 4 months to repeat her prescription

in order for any animal to be given a prescription medication it has to be seen at the dispensing practice at least 6monthly, it has been like this for quite a while now and it has not changed since recent events.
the above vet has decided to follow protocol since the 'bute in burgers' episode, the government have not changed anything....yet.
 
My filly had to be referred for colic surgery. I called the horsepital on MY mobile and handed it to the vet to talk to the receiving vet. I got charged £40 for making the referral, as well as the call out and preliminary treatment given to the filly. That paled into insignificance when the surgery bill came to nearly £4k. At least she survived!
 
and you know for sure that they didn't have a more detailed conversation when you were on your way to surgery, that the practice didn't need to fax over your horses history to the people who were about to undertake this major surgery? I certainly wouldn't want anybody undertaking abdominal surgery on me without a medical history being taken.
 
I was told when i first qualified never to work out your wage per hour as it is soul destroying.
To whoever winged over paying £2 for disposable gloves - for a stitch up these would be sterile gloves which are nowhere near as cheap as the non-sterile versions that i am assuming you are thinking of. Also disposable gloves are not all the same - different materials etc are required depending on the animal/user as some animals (and humans) can have allergic reactions to latex etc. Also, from experience, the cheap ones are often poor quality and of questionable sterility (Im sure you wouldnt want those used in an op on your dog). In coloic surgeries it is not uncommon for a vet to go through 3-4 pairs of gloves so in a team of 2-4 vets and nurses, lots of gloves are used. In my experience these are always charged separately and usually at a cost of approx £2 each.
For what its worth, your bill sounds perfectly reasonable and I think it is ridiculous to whine about paying for gloves. You'd have a lot more to complain about if they went without and you ended up with an iatrogenic wound infection!!
 
and you know for sure that they didn't have a more detailed conversation when you were on your way to surgery, that the practice didn't need to fax over your horses history to the people who were about to undertake this major surgery? I certainly wouldn't want anybody undertaking abdominal surgery on me without a medical history being taken.

Yes, I do know for sure that there was no other conversation. There was no history to fax over as this was a 4 month old foal who had never seen a vet before that night. The reason my phone was used was because the vet didn't have the number of the horsepital on his. I did! He did have the number of another large animal hospital on his phone but not the one to which I wanted her referred. I was present during the full conversation when information was passed on about drugs administered and symptoms. The vets at the horsepital liaised directly with me, including from the operating table, immediately post surgery and when I took the foal's dam up when she was in the recovery room. The operating vet called the referring vet the following day to give an update. I was fully informed of all this.
 
So there was further communication - the discussions after the operation. Were you charged additionally for those? Presumably the operating hospital also sent a follow up recommendations & details of treatment received in writing which your vet had to put into their records etc. Was that charged for seperately?
 
So there was further communication - the discussions after the operation. Were you charged additionally for those? Presumably the operating hospital also sent a follow up recommendations & details of treatment received in writing which your vet had to put into their records etc. Was that charged for seperately?

There was one contact post op from the operating vet to the referring vet and a report went to the referring vet. This wasn't charged by the operating vet and I have no issues whatsoever with any of the other charges, only the excessive charge for making a phone call from the referring vet which I actually made. Clearly you think you know more about this case than I do so I bow out now to your superior knowledge.
 
There was one contact post op from the operating vet to the referring vet and a report went to the referring vet. This wasn't charged by the operating vet and I have no issues whatsoever with any of the other charges, only the excessive charge for making a phone call from the referring vet which I actually made. Clearly you think you know more about this case than I do so I bow out now to your superior knowledge.

any referral with small animals has to be put in writing so it is traceable-i would assume it is the same with equine but can check monday when at work if it will put your mind ay rest regarding the charges. have you spoken to your vets about the charge and how you feel it is excessive?
 
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