vet visit - overreacting?

meleeka said:
I'd be horrified if a vet sedated my horse outside the stable tbh. My vets wouldn't dream of carrying out any procedure that would be safer done in a stable.
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I always have sedation done on grass...if they're going down I'd rather they didn't hit a brick wall.
Our 16.3 shire cross nearly went down with a shetland pony dose.
 
If horse handlers had a method of immobilising their horses on demand vets wouldn't carry any sedatives.
But it isn't always possible - nothing to do with competency.

There is no foolproof way of doing it, with some horses and procedures.

If you can restrain 600k of equine who isn't playing then there is the possibility of earning very good money! (but I don't believe it) : )
 
SusieT said:
You may have been of the opinion the horse moving its head and risking a nose blood was ok, the vet clearly wasn't - why could you not hold your horses head still for her to do her work ?
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My cob is not a light weight, she weighs in at around 89 and a half stone, adult female weighs in ( on average ) somewhere between 9 and 14 stone. I'd be amazed if anyone could hold her head still if she didn't want it held still and I doubt very much if she would like the process of something being shoved up her nose so would move, by all means feel free to show us how you would get it done humanely as I'm sure a lot of us could learn from it.
 
wills_91 said:
I'm kicking myself for allowing her to sedate her outside. I spoke to senior partner - who knows my horse - she wasn't very impressed however said she would need to check what dosage she was given and speak to the vet in question so I am waiting to hear back from them. I do not want to cause a real upset over this but I do think lessons need to be learned from it.

Yes she asked me her weight before she sedated her.
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Whatever has happened can't be undone but when you find out more details about the dose you will at least know how much was used so that should she need sedation again you will have the facts and be able to ensure they start slowly with the dosage, hopefully your girlie is ok today with no lasting effects like bumps & bruises etc.
 
SusieT said:
surely you should have been competent enouguh to stop the horse raising its head. I mean how could you not have the skills to hold the horses head still?

Pointing the finger of blame is easy - you can't blame the professional if you can't control your own animal
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As I said previously, I was happy for her to be sedated of that's what the vet felt safer. I'm not blaming the professional...
 
LD&S said:
Whatever has happened can't be undone but when you find out more details about the dose you will at least know how much was used so that should she need sedation again you will have the facts and be able to ensure they start slowly with the dosage, hopefully your girlie is ok today with no lasting effects like bumps & bruises etc.
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thanks, it's put me off sedating again! Unfortunately she is quite stiff and sore at her back end 😕.
 
SusieT said:
surely you should have been competent enouguh to stop the horse raising its head. I mean how could you not have the skills to hold the horses head still?

Pointing the finger of blame is easy - you can't blame the professional if you can't control your own animal
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Susie can you please tell us all where you learnt to hold still the head of a determined horse who weighs ten times as much as you do and has a hundred times your strength? In forty years I've never worked it out, but I'd love to learn that trick :D



OP I hope the stiffness wears off today with turnout or some gentle exercise.
 
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ycbm said:
Susie can you please tell us all where you learnt to hold still the head of a determined horse who weighs ten times as much as you do and has a hundred times your strength? In forty years I've never worked it out, but I'd love to learn that trick :D



OP I hope the stiffness wears off today with turnout or some gentle exercise.
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SusieT said:
surely you should have been competent enouguh to stop the horse raising its head. I mean how could you not have the skills to hold the horses head still?

Pointing the finger of blame is easy - you can't blame the professional if you can't control your own animal
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having been lifted off the floor by my horses at worming time, I think a normal horse would have no issue lifting its head at will, despite a humans best puny efforts!
 
the point I am making is that if the handler is unable to stop the horse doing something how on earth is the vet expected to do their job in a perfect manner? It is easy to point the finger but if someone was to ring up and complain about how you did your bit ie handling you would feel rightly agrieved as horses can be horses - it's impossible to make them stand nice and quietly and submit to every medical thing we wish to do - so maybe think about that before complaining. Yes check the doses werent ourgaeous and if they were complain away but you are being somewhat unreasonable in expecting someone to manage a job while you are not perfect ( by the nature of the beast!)
 
SusieT said:
the point I am making is that if the handler is unable to stop the horse doing something how on earth is the vet expected to do their job in a perfect manner? It is easy to point the finger but if someone was to ring up and complain about how you did your bit ie handling you would feel rightly agrieved as horses can be horses - it's impossible to make them stand nice and quietly and submit to every medical thing we wish to do - so maybe think about that before complaining. Yes check the doses werent ourgaeous and if they were complain away but you are being somewhat unreasonable in expecting someone to manage a job while you are not perfect ( by the nature of the beast!)
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I have read over my posts and I don't see anywhere where I have said I was going to complain.... infact I have stated several times that I can except reactions can and do happen and will be happy with that IF it is confirmed she was given a low dose, which is what I agreed to. If she was given a large dose then senior practise vet needs to be aware of this. I am not annoyed that she chose to sedate her, if she felt that was the safest option all round - fine. I am also confident in the way in which I handled her, she's a good horse and generally behaves very well and is tolerant to most things. At the end of the day I am the one paying the bills, I have the right as a customer to have my horse attended to by a confident vet and trust that they will not make errors in administrating drugs. She's a young vet, people make mistakes we are only human after all but it needs to be noted.
 
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