Vets coming out :(

Just read your post, congratulations, how exciting, im sure your mare will cope very well as shes foaled before, the mare i had to help was a maiden mare and tbh she did it all herself foaly just needed a wee pull :D exciting times ahead
 
I think that's a fab name for a colt.

What about Rissa for a filly? Close to Tessys name.

I always say to my sister give any new thing in life a month to sink in and get into the right routine and you will be fine.
Xx

Thank you :D

Rissa is lovely :), hopefully things will get routined, vet loved Tess for a horse who we dont know if she is good with the vets stood very still whilst a lubed up arm was shoved up her bum :D
 
They really do go very jelly like around either side of their tail when they are near. start having a gentle palpate and you'll feel the difference... and lift her tail and have a look at her vulva... that will be amazingly long! (If she allows you!)
 
They really do go very jelly like around either side of their tail when they are near. start having a gentle palpate and you'll feel the difference... and lift her tail and have a look at her vulva... that will be amazingly long! (If she allows you!)

Her bum has dropped muscle and gone jellyoish, nut yes her vulva has stretched and dropped, just looking for wax on teets now !
 
To start I apologise in advance for the rather long post :D

Went down to Tess gave her a cuddle and talked to her for a bit, she yanwed and rolled her eyes a lot clearly a pro at this stuff :D

yup she will know what she's on about - it could be worse, she could be a maiden.
Just so you know the stats are something like 90 - 95% of all foalings go without a problem and given she's an experienced broody you're got an excellent chance of a normal foaling.

We have been told her teets should extend closer to foaling, can i be really stupid and ask what a foaling kit is :o

When should we start checking on her at night do you think ? and what are the signs of being in labour ?

Vet has told us about red bag delivery :)

Foaling kit is all the items you need on hand for the foaling, there are some items that you have as a 'just in case' and hope not to need but should have - heres my list (may still be added to)
Watch/clock - to time stages because things happen very quickly and if something goes overtime you need the vet
Vetwrap or tail bandage - to get the tail up out the way, not essential but keeps it clean and out the way
Sterile obs gloves/lube - in case you need to provide assistance while waiting for the vet - given you have a helpful stud up the road who are willing to help you may not need these. Personally I hope mine will stay in the pack
Sterile scissors - to cut the amniotic sac away from foals face if you can't tear it
Clean bucket & cloths to wash udders before first drink (reduces infection in foal)
Navel disinfectant - preferably chlorahexadine as iodine can burn the skin
Several clean towels - to dry foal if needed
Zip ties or bailing twine - to tie up the placenta until she passes it, prevents tearing
Ivermectin wormer - worm the mare within 12 hours of birth and really reduces the risk of the foal scouring on the mare's next heat (a common problem)
Black bags - to put the placenta in (keep it for the vet to check it then burn or bury it)
Torch - in case lights fail
Hibiscrub
Feeding bottle and teats - in case anything happens or the foal can't get up to nurse


Her udders should swell even more and the teats will become more proud and she may well develop little wax corks on the end of the teats as she gets closed.

Signs of being in labour - early stage is like mild colic but is easy to miss. Second stage is the waters breaking (can look like a really long pee) and then foal should start to appear. Normal presentation is two feet and a nose, anything else is call the vet time. From waters breaking to a foal out should be no more than 30 minutes and if she's straining for more than 10-15 minutes without anything coming then get the vet. If in doubt in anyway get the vet - foalings happen very quickly and if something goes wrong it goes wrong quickly so you should always get the vet sooner rather than waiting and seeing (same applies to foal once it's here) Once foal is out leave it to lie without breaking the cord. You want the cord to go from red to pale as the blood goes through it and it should be pale before breaking - the foal and mare will do that themselves, you don't need to cut it but treat the cord once it's broken.

A really good thing to investigate is milk testing - you use ph strips and calcium ones (can get from aquatic centre/pool places) to test the milk and (I can't remember the extact value change etc off the top of my head) the values change pretty dramatically within 24-48 hours of the foaling coming.

Also you can get baby moniters with infrared for about £30-40 which are wireless so you can keep an eye on her without disturbing her.

Appologies for the long post and I'm not trying to freak you out or anything, just give you an idea. In all likelihood she'll get on and do everything and not really need any help at all especially as she's done it all before.
The Foaling Primer is excellent for talking you through mal-presentations and how to deal with them so highly recommend that.

Good luck with everything - I fully understand how much of a shock this is for you and how scary it is, My mare is due early May and I'm freaking a bit and I've been planning this for 18 months!!

It will only be 7 months or so until the foal can be weaned and you can get on with things with Tessy, in the meantime you get a foal to play with :D
 
I've just read the whole thread, I've been nervous, excited and delighted in turns! First off, have a big hug. It's a massive shock and a big change to your plans but you have a gorgeous girl who's going to produce a stunning foal.

Lots of luck and looking forward to all the updates. :)
 
To start I apologise in advance for the rather long post :D



yup she will know what she's on about - it could be worse, she could be a maiden.
Just so you know the stats are something like 90 - 95% of all foalings go without a problem and given she's an experienced broody you're got an excellent chance of a normal foaling.



Foaling kit is all the items you need on hand for the foaling, there are some items that you have as a 'just in case' and hope not to need but should have - heres my list (may still be added to)
Watch/clock - to time stages because things happen very quickly and if something goes overtime you need the vet
Vetwrap or tail bandage - to get the tail up out the way, not essential but keeps it clean and out the way
Sterile obs gloves/lube - in case you need to provide assistance while waiting for the vet - given you have a helpful stud up the road who are willing to help you may not need these. Personally I hope mine will stay in the pack
Sterile scissors - to cut the amniotic sac away from foals face if you can't tear it
Clean bucket & cloths to wash udders before first drink (reduces infection in foal)
Navel disinfectant - preferably chlorahexadine as iodine can burn the skin
Several clean towels - to dry foal if needed
Zip ties or bailing twine - to tie up the placenta until she passes it, prevents tearing
Ivermectin wormer - worm the mare within 12 hours of birth and really reduces the risk of the foal scouring on the mare's next heat (a common problem)
Black bags - to put the placenta in (keep it for the vet to check it then burn or bury it)
Torch - in case lights fail
Hibiscrub
Feeding bottle and teats - in case anything happens or the foal can't get up to nurse


Her udders should swell even more and the teats will become more proud and she may well develop little wax corks on the end of the teats as she gets closed.

Signs of being in labour - early stage is like mild colic but is easy to miss. Second stage is the waters breaking (can look like a really long pee) and then foal should start to appear. Normal presentation is two feet and a nose, anything else is call the vet time. From waters breaking to a foal out should be no more than 30 minutes and if she's straining for more than 10-15 minutes without anything coming then get the vet. If in doubt in anyway get the vet - foalings happen very quickly and if something goes wrong it goes wrong quickly so you should always get the vet sooner rather than waiting and seeing (same applies to foal once it's here) Once foal is out leave it to lie without breaking the cord. You want the cord to go from red to pale as the blood goes through it and it should be pale before breaking - the foal and mare will do that themselves, you don't need to cut it but treat the cord once it's broken.

A really good thing to investigate is milk testing - you use ph strips and calcium ones (can get from aquatic centre/pool places) to test the milk and (I can't remember the extact value change etc off the top of my head) the values change pretty dramatically within 24-48 hours of the foaling coming.

Also you can get baby moniters with infrared for about £30-40 which are wireless so you can keep an eye on her without disturbing her.

Appologies for the long post and I'm not trying to freak you out or anything, just give you an idea. In all likelihood she'll get on and do everything and not really need any help at all especially as she's done it all before.
The Foaling Primer is excellent for talking you through mal-presentations and how to deal with them so highly recommend that.

Good luck with everything - I fully understand how much of a shock this is for you and how scary it is, My mare is due early May and I'm freaking a bit and I've been planning this for 18 months!!

It will only be 7 months or so until the foal can be weaned and you can get on with things with Tessy, in the meantime you get a foal to play with :D


Thank you so so much ! All fab info that i have stored and will revise over the coming days :)

I've just read the whole thread, I've been nervous, excited and delighted in turns! First off, have a big hug. It's a massive shock and a big change to your plans but you have a gorgeous girl who's going to produce a stunning foal.

Lots of luck and looking forward to all the updates. :)

Thank you lovely :D i will keep everyone updated i promise x
 
No probs - my mare is expecting her and my first foal in about 6 weeks or so and I have literally read/absorbed everything I can get my hands on about foals/foaling etc (I'm quite scared about how much is sitting in my head right now and kinda nervous that it is all going to go flying out when she actually goes into labour)

Good luck and enjoy (oo, tip, put your hands on her flank where the hair does that funny change of direction just in front of the back leg, one hand about half way up and one just peeking under her belly and you should feel the foally kicking although it's quite subtle (at least in my mare it is) and you may need to check both sides)
 
Oh Tessybear, so much information for you to try to retain lol! You won't, so when you do come up with specific questions please post in the Breeding section and us down there will all be more than happy to help you :)

If you have the girls at the stud just up the road then I'm sure they will be more than happy to give hands on help too once you know she's going to go into labour. I'm forever being called out by local small breeders to go and assist their foalings and so long as I don't have one of mine about to be due within 12 hours then I'm happy to help. Most breeders are. Milk testing is definitely something you want to seriously consider as it saves so much wasted time and sleepless nights. It's very easy to do and only takes a couple of minutes a day once your mare has properly bagged up. Distilled water and pool strips (that go down to at least 6.2pH) is all you need and if you know how to read it, it will tell you when your mare is within 24 hours of foaling. If you are interested in doing this then I can give you the specifics but you only need a teeny bit of milk mixed with water at a ratio of 1cc milk to 6cc distilled water, so it's easy :)

I'm sorry once again that you have been put in this position and I think your dad is being very sensible, however your whole family will get caught up in this because it does start to take over your life once foaling is imminent. Try not to worry about foaling her yourself, and it's highly likely that you will be the only one/s there because once they go into full blown labour, the foal will be out before you know it! Most foalings go without a hitch, a few foals just need a little twiddle here and there to be in the right position, and although it can be catastrophic if presentation is seriously wrong, this is still a very rare occurrance so try not to worry. Obviously checking presentation sheets are a very good idea so that you have a plan on how to correct the foal if something is obviously wrong, but don't dwell upon this.

One other thing I always ask my broodmare clients is which one do you want to save if it comes down to it. In your case I know your answer, same as mine, it will be your mare :) Anyway, don't be afraid to visit Breeding and ask as many questions as you like and don't worry if they seem silly to you, we all know your situation and no question you could ask will be thought of as silly to us :)
 
No probs - my mare is expecting her and my first foal in about 6 weeks or so and I have literally read/absorbed everything I can get my hands on about foals/foaling etc (I'm quite scared about how much is sitting in my head right now and kinda nervous that it is all going to go flying out when she actually goes into labour)

Good luck and enjoy (oo, tip, put your hands on her flank where the hair does that funny change of direction just in front of the back leg, one hand about half way up and one just peeking under her belly and you should feel the foally kicking although it's quite subtle (at least in my mare it is) and you may need to check both sides)

Ah how exciting ! we will have to make a foal box on here :D I am sure you and mare will be fab :)

Fantastic will try tomorrow when bring her up to groom.
 
Oh Tessybear, so much information for you to try to retain lol! You won't, so when you do come up with specific questions please post in the Breeding section and us down there will all be more than happy to help you :)

If you have the girls at the stud just up the road then I'm sure they will be more than happy to give hands on help too once you know she's going to go into labour. I'm forever being called out by local small breeders to go and assist their foalings and so long as I don't have one of mine about to be due within 12 hours then I'm happy to help. Most breeders are. Milk testing is definitely something you want to seriously consider as it saves so much wasted time and sleepless nights. It's very easy to do and only takes a couple of minutes a day once your mare has properly bagged up. Distilled water and pool strips (that go down to at least 6.2pH) is all you need and if you know how to read it, it will tell you when your mare is within 24 hours of foaling. If you are interested in doing this then I can give you the specifics but you only need a teeny bit of milk mixed with water at a ratio of 1cc milk to 6cc distilled water, so it's easy :)

I'm sorry once again that you have been put in this position and I think your dad is being very sensible, however your whole family will get caught up in this because it does start to take over your life once foaling is imminent. Try not to worry about foaling her yourself, and it's highly likely that you will be the only one/s there because once they go into full blown labour, the foal will be out before you know it! Most foalings go without a hitch, a few foals just need a little twiddle here and there to be in the right position, and although it can be catastrophic if presentation is seriously wrong, this is still a very rare occurrance so try not to worry. Obviously checking presentation sheets are a very good idea so that you have a plan on how to correct the foal if something is obviously wrong, but don't dwell upon this.

One other thing I always ask my broodmare clients is which one do you want to save if it comes down to it. In your case I know your answer, same as mine, it will be your mare :) Anyway, don't be afraid to visit Breeding and ask as many questions as you like and don't worry if they seem silly to you, we all know your situation and no question you could ask will be thought of as silly to us :)

Eeeek thank you more fantastic info ! will most likely come up with some panicky questions tomorrow but vet said she isn't worried at all as she could tell she had many foals from having her arm up her bum :confused: which would fit with ex owners info :)
 
I'm quite scared about how much is sitting in my head right now and kinda nervous that it is all going to go flying out when she actually goes into labour

It won't :) If you're unlucky enough to have a difficult birthing then I'll tell you what happened to me the very first time I had to become involved. I had a million things running through my head, and then I took a deep breath and dug out all the information stored in my mind, and it came naturally to me to do what needed to be done. Don't ever panic, just breath and concentrate on all you've learned :)
 
AND
friend just said i can ride her little 4yr old Cobby over summer :D

This is awesome news - you will still get to ride and play with baby.

There are lots of shows with mare and foal classes and it's such fun taking baby to shows - below is a picture of my mares first foal out at a show at just three weeks old.
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and this was his mums boobies two days prior to foaling
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This is awesome news - you will still get to ride and play with baby.

There are lots of shows with mare and foal classes and it's such fun taking baby to shows - below is a picture of my mares first foal out at a show at just three weeks old.
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and this was his mums boobies two days prior to foaling
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Ah thats adorable :D,than your for the pictures tess is yet to wax up so daily checks are in order :)
 
Good luck and enjoy (oo, tip, put your hands on her flank where the hair does that funny change of direction just in front of the back leg, one hand about half way up and one just peeking under her belly and you should feel the foally kicking although it's quite subtle (at least in my mare it is) and you may need to check both sides)

Right here \/ \/ Tessybear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPdgeyFovhA&feature=youtu.be
 
I have no useful info, never been in your situation, nor do I have any experience of breeding! But always here for support if you need it. Don't think I'm anywhere near you unfortunately :(
But I definitely know the stress of looming a levels and exams. Was 2/3 years ago. Bloody stressful!!
 
Any news? Have become unwittingly drawn into this.
On the practical side, she is a mare who has foaled many times before. She looks in good condition, so I would not add any extra feed other than a stud balancer, as too much food does more damage than a little less in my experience. Keep an eye on her but she should be fine. I wouldn't worry. Get the vet out to spray navel/give copper if needed and check the sac and foal. Keep the mare on the balancer for 3 months then tail off to nothing by 4. The foal might take a creep feed at this stage but giving your mare's breed and type I wouldn't advise it unless it looks poor, give it a small amount up to and on weaning (around 6/7 months old you wean) as they drop a bit then but onwards and upwards from there on in! First trim around 2 months old.
Good luck!

God my potted advice is looking very inadequate next to the fantasticly detailed and excellent advice on this thread.
I would re-iretate that Tessy appears to be an experienced mother, and her breed probably have the least foaling complication than others. That is not to say nothing could ever go wrong, but I wouldn't unduly worry about you mare.
As another poster said, it is unlikely her previous owners stood by with cctv and a foaling kit.
I would also caution against moving her. The atibodies she has built up in the environment she is in at the moment are what she will pass onto the foal in the forst feeds, the colostrum. These are the foals immune system. Moving her so close to foaling may unsettle her, maybe less than maiden more 'bred' mares but may unsettle her nonetheless. It would also leave her little time to build up antibodies to the environment she finds herself in.

If I were you I would be mightily widdled off at finding my mare unexpectedly pregnant. I feel your pain. On the plus side the foal has many possible future homes already ;) and you can restart yours and Tessy's riding careers again in 7 months-something to light up winter evenings!
LOL at your father thinking your an animal pervert. We will expect to see many more 'topless' pics from now on! :D
 
It won't :) If you're unlucky enough to have a difficult birthing then I'll tell you what happened to me the very first time I had to become involved. I had a million things running through my head, and then I took a deep breath and dug out all the information stored in my mind, and it came naturally to me to do what needed to be done. Don't ever panic, just breath and concentrate on all you've learned :)

:D:D I know in my head I'll be fine once I'm in doing it but by nature I'm a worrier - luckly my way of coping with worry is to research and plan, a lot (I think I'm driving my family mad with my planning as I literally go into every little detail)


How far along was this mare? and was she a maiden or experienced? That is one energetic foal. My mare is just shy of 10 months and it's still pretty subtle to feel it kicking
 
This is going to be a lot to take in. For my very first foal I prepped from conception. I had a foaling kit ready to go about 4 months from foaling. Bought all brand new things! LOL! Read all the books, aka everything that will scare the crap out of you books! I talked to loads of people. This was my mare's first foal too. At 333 days I became suspicious she was very close to foaling but her bag didn't look how I expected and no wax. I was told by experienced people she would not go before day 340 and most likely much later. The camera was due to go in the next day.

The next morning I walk out to see baby Heidi completely dry and sleeping. I dropped my bucket and ran yelling for my husband. Both mare and foal were perfectly fine thank goodness. I felt like an idiot! I should have sold my shiny new foaling kit! LOL!

The following year I had the camera up 2 months before the next foal was due. I was staying up most nights a month before. I was driving my poor mare batty with all the checks. At any rate I was ready and on the button to see this one born. After that things were much easier and I lost very little sleep unless I had a maiden foaling.

The thing about iodine and chlorhexidine is that yes the chlor is less caustic. It's basically hibi scrub or nolvasan in the US. Providine is iodine without the caustic elements. Either is fine. The best thing to do is to ask the stud farm up the road what they use.

Your mare has been there and done that. She will know exactly what to do and so chances are it will all go very smoothly. I had one birth that needed vet assistance. The filly was upside down and backwards. Vet sorted it quite quickly. The other one I had was a hip lock. My last foal and the only one I was on my own for. I just calmed myself down remembered what all the books had said and boom, one little adjustment and the Cupcake was out like a shot.

Things will be fine.

Terri
 
Only just seen this!
Congratulations to the pair of you, and im sorry it.has come at an awkward time!
But from what you have said about.Tess i think she knows what shes doing and would have given you more signs if she needed help,

I think it will be a step back and watching experience (but im not saying that its going to because some times they do)
Im jealous you have Tess and have a once in a life time experience!
From.all.the comments i read i think people are here 24/7 to help and give you advise and hey, least you know, better then walking into a stable one day and seeing Tess and a Mini T!

Good luck! Lile someone said we are rooting (sp) for.you! And dont worry about mini T im sure someone on here will be too overwhelmed by his cutness and cave!!
 
How far along was this mare? and was she a maiden or experienced? That is one energetic foal. My mare is just shy of 10 months and it's still pretty subtle to feel it kicking

She was 10 months. The video was taken on the 12 April and the foal was born on the 16 May. He was just as lively when he came out as he was while he was inside! The video is actually a tame version of what he was like. I'd been watching him do this for at least 15 mins, and much more lively, before I actually went up to the house to get the video camera, so what you see in that video was just the tail end of some very excitable movements.
 
She was 10 months. The video was taken on the 12 April and the foal was born on the 16 May. He was just as lively when he came out as he was while he was inside! The video is actually a tame version of what he was like. I'd been watching him do this for at least 15 mins, and much more lively, before I actually went up to the house to get the video camera, so what you see in that video was just the tail end of some very excitable movements.

It's mad how different they are - my mare it's really subtle to feel and you have to watch closly to see (she's same gestation)
 
I signed up to foal down a BOGOF but the mare was not a maiden mare. For many nights I sat up and watched and to cut a very long story short, she got what looked like crystallised granulated sugar on the end of her teats and the day before she foaled began to drip. The morning she didn't foal overnight, I let her out and turned my back for no longer than 15 minutes... All I did was check (and photograph) the placenta was complete and dip his navel stump with an iodine solution.

He was/is a good strong foal but again, a thoughtless covering and essentially surplus. He was a blinking nuisance once he got to a few weeks old. Very cheeky and mum soon got very fed up of him!

I have millions of pictures.
 
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