Vets won't give sedaline for dentist.....

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Ok, so have just called vets for some sedaline for when dentist comes but they are say they now don't give it out for the dentist unless a vet is there to oversee what is going on!!! What a con, so a routine dentist vist is now going to cost well over a £100.

So I asked them what about if you want it for clipping, they said thats ok but for dentist they have to oversee the work.

Anyone else heard of this??
 
No but my dentist is also a qualified vet so can do her own sedation. If I were you I'd just ask for sedaline for clipping and then use it for whatever you want to use it for. We used to use for the farrier, the vet was quite happy for that.
 
My dentist hates the horses having sedaline before he arrives as it quite often means that horses stand as good as gold and as soon as they start to worl on their teeth they react or pull back, meaning injury. However if you've always used it they I can't see a problem. I know vets around me are becoming so much worse at squeezing every last penny out of horse owners, if you knwo how to use sed ring and ask for clipping.
 
I have to use it for one of my ponies as dentist can't get near him to even have a look but I was just shocked when vets came out with that! I use a very good dentist thats is well known to them aswell.
Of course I will now ask for it for clipping but can't help thinking this is a bit of a rip off!!!
 
In Australia, most vets are ok with equine dentists, but some begrudge missing out on the business. (If they were any good they would have more business than they could handle). It is a currently a big issue over here as they develop nationally accredited training for equine dentists and a small handful of vets are doing their best to stop equine dentists being trained.

tell your vet it is for clipping. But most dentists will avoid use of sedatives unless absoltuely necesary. I have 7 horses and 1 needs sedative/restraint. The rest are fine. She just has a phobia about any treatment at all worming/vets / dentists etc.
 
I had the same thing from my vets though they did give me it the end. Firstly the secertary tried to say my horse isn't prescribed sedalin and it was over a year since he last had it. Obviously! So I had to explain to her Sedalin is a sedative and he only needs it for the dentist.
Another thing is that one of the vets practices dentistry (not good at it though!) but I get a proper horse dentist who is very good, so the vets wanted to know why I don't use their dentist/vet.
Then another vet had to give me a lecture of how to use sedalin although I used it numerous times. I think the law on it might have changed? or vets are tryinmg to make more money.
 
dominobrown - My vets have a dentist to so maybe thats why!! I do believe hes good but they charge £65 call out and my dentist doesn't.
 
I think legally they are supposed to monitor the use of sedatives in horses. My own horse is being very difficult to shoe (behind), after having the vet jab her, she is now happy to prescribe me Dormosedan, which is much more powerful and expensive than Sedalin, which didn't work...
 
The Vet has to have seen the horse at least once in the past year, so if they haven't seen him maybe thats why they said they had to come out.

Have you had it before? If not they have to see the horse before they give it out too.
 
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Actually they have to have seen the horse within the last 6 months now. It used to be a year, but they have tightened up on this recently. Sadly I seem to see the vet far more often than once every 6 months!
 
My vet tried this because they claimed they could do the dental work treatment instead of my very trusted dentist. They were a right pain about the whole thing and in the end the dentist recommended his vet, who came out and sedated both, watched and then left with the dentist.

End result - I changed vets after 20 years with them. They were so awkward about it, insisting that they do the work that it left a bad taste in my mouth......so to speak.
 
I jsut went in to my vets and bought it - they didnt ask me why I needed it at all! Fat lot of good it did tho, didnt work on my mare :(
 
My friend arranged for the vet to be in attendance when the dentist rasped her 7 year old TB/shire horses teeth. The vet had a right moan about it and said sedation should not be undertaken for matters like this and the horse should be trained to cope with it. We thought he was having a bad day.

The horse was found dead in the field the next morning, PM said "heart attack". Obviously no link proved at all but you do wonder and when vets want to be there, it is obviously considered to carry a risk. But I guess any sedation does.

Surprised about Sedaline as same vets were quick to dish it out when a very highly strung Warmblood we owned needed transporting into their practice for lameness investigations.
 
Had to laugh at this. I'm not saying our vets aren't carefull, they are, but I dont have any problems getting sedatives.

Every time I ring up for some for "The Beast" they are happy to let me have it. They even gave me some of the new stronger oral sedative when I told them the dentist was coming.

They are probably frightened that I might actual ask one of them to come out to her if I dont get the stuff. She has a serious vet phobia.
 
sedalin for dentist?? :eek:

I should be so lucky! Dozy git needed 2 lots of iv sedation when he had his teeth done last week - and he was still a tw*t!! :mad:

we are fortunate enough to take ours to the local horsepital to see the dentist as he is there every other week - so lots of vets around and no call-out!

nowt so queer as horses though, same dozy git adores being clipped - especially his whiskers and under his chin - can dentist really feel that much different?? :confused:
 
stroppymare153 said:
sedalin for dentist?? :eek:

I should be so lucky! Dozy git needed 2 lots of iv sedation when he had his teeth done last week - and he was still a tw*t!! :mad:
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Heehee sounds like my mare. She takes great pleasure in trying to squish whoever is doing her teeth despite being drugged to the eyeballs :rolleyes:
 
Unfortunatly with the commen misuse of drugs any professional would want to know they were going to used for there intended purpose and why they were needed, they are the ones writing the precription and they would be responsible if there was an incident. When you ask for some medication at a pharmacy you should be asked certain questions and they are not horse tranquelisers.
Having been on a livery yard where ACP was left lieing about I think alot of people have lost sight that these are potentially dangerous drugs and should be treated with respect.
 
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