Flibble
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May have signs of early sarcoids - is this a problem ??
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Maisy
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I think that is down to the individual. Some people dont care, some do......
What did your vet say?
What did your vet say?
CracklinRosie
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I wouldn't say so but depends on the person really!
cob1
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Id be frighened of them appearing on face, saddle and girth area etc (and current ones growing - especially if they ulcerate). Also treatment expensive and not necessarily guaranteed to be successful.
My friends cob has got them on his chest and sheath area - they bleed and strict fly control is needed. She sometimes cant ride as teh start to bleed when the skin moves.
Don't think i would - but depends on the vets prognosis.
My friends cob has got them on his chest and sheath area - they bleed and strict fly control is needed. She sometimes cant ride as teh start to bleed when the skin moves.
Don't think i would - but depends on the vets prognosis.
hellspells
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I brought mine with one - had it removed and it never caused a problem since.
If you decide to go ahead - you may be able negogiate the price a little or get them go contribute to vets costs if you decide to have them removed
If you decide to go ahead - you may be able negogiate the price a little or get them go contribute to vets costs if you decide to have them removed
Weezy
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COMPLETELY depends where they are!
adgetom
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one of mine has one on his chest .
its only tiny so not a prob but my vet advised me against buying another horse because of sarcoids
is it a grey??
its only tiny so not a prob but my vet advised me against buying another horse because of sarcoids
is it a grey??
AmyMay
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Depends where it is - but certainly wouldn't put me off.
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Depends where it is - but certainly wouldn't put me off.
CracklinRosie
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What does he mean "may have" early signs of sarcoids???
In hindsight, you should've been there!!! Information is power!
What type of sarcoid also? There are many.
In hindsight, you should've been there!!! Information is power!
What type of sarcoid also? There are many.
ihatework
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Depends where they are and what type, the former the vet will be able to tell you, the latter will be almost impossible to tell if they aren't formed. And given that it is only a 'may' then who knows.
The vet has to cover their back hence they will write it on vetting certificate and it will most likely be excluded from insurance.
The vet has to cover their back hence they will write it on vetting certificate and it will most likely be excluded from insurance.
dozzie
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I think you need to ask a bit more about what he means. Mine had funny scabs/bald bits and the vet said the same. He said it could be although he was pretty sure it wasnt. But he couldnt guarantee they werent early sarcoids.
Flibble
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She said abou the same I like him enough do I take the risk
ladyt25
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Any horse can develop sarcoids anyway so, to be honest if there were no other problems and you feel the horse is for you I woulnd't be too worried BUT you may have to be prepared for bills in the future should any sarcoids appear that could interfere with tack fitting etc and you need them removing.
We bought my sisters horse 4 years ago, he had a 'wart' on the back of his ear. Didn't think a prob but within a couple of months it had actually grown substantially and we opted to have it frozen off (as affected where his headpiece went) Since then **touches wood!** he has not had a reoccurrence although he has a couple of miniscule 'warts' around his sheath area.
Still, he does what we want and I guess it's a small price to pay and a small risk to take. I think personally unless a horse was covered in sarcoids (I'd have walked away anyway) I wouldn't be overly concerned.
We bought my sisters horse 4 years ago, he had a 'wart' on the back of his ear. Didn't think a prob but within a couple of months it had actually grown substantially and we opted to have it frozen off (as affected where his headpiece went) Since then **touches wood!** he has not had a reoccurrence although he has a couple of miniscule 'warts' around his sheath area.
Still, he does what we want and I guess it's a small price to pay and a small risk to take. I think personally unless a horse was covered in sarcoids (I'd have walked away anyway) I wouldn't be overly concerned.
mickey
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My horse has a sarcoid on his pastern, which he developed some yrs after purchase. It has been a real pain in the a*** to be honest. It has taken yrs to resolve.
Even if a sarcoid is present now and it is in a 'good' place, others might crop up elsewhere in the future esp if a horse is prone to these. I think flies can spread them and they can be spread by touch, though I stand to be corrected on that one.
I don't know. I would be tempted to get a second vets opinion, (on could it spread, how are they dealt with if it is a sarcoid, etc) one that isn't tied up in the vetting paperwork. It is impossible to say exactly what this is without a biopsy.
Depends how much you like the horse in other regards. It's all a balance of so many things.
Even if a sarcoid is present now and it is in a 'good' place, others might crop up elsewhere in the future esp if a horse is prone to these. I think flies can spread them and they can be spread by touch, though I stand to be corrected on that one.
I don't know. I would be tempted to get a second vets opinion, (on could it spread, how are they dealt with if it is a sarcoid, etc) one that isn't tied up in the vetting paperwork. It is impossible to say exactly what this is without a biopsy.
Depends how much you like the horse in other regards. It's all a balance of so many things.
at work
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Qs 19&20 at:
http://pcwww.liv.ac.uk/sarcoid/facts.htm
probably give you the best advice.
I've got one horse with sarcoids which have been sucessfully treated, but although they are not a problem right now, it is a constant worry that they will come back or he will get new ones, so I'd personally see it as something to avoid.
http://pcwww.liv.ac.uk/sarcoid/facts.htm
probably give you the best advice.
I've got one horse with sarcoids which have been sucessfully treated, but although they are not a problem right now, it is a constant worry that they will come back or he will get new ones, so I'd personally see it as something to avoid.
Flibble
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Ok Gone for it so many other things can go wrong with horses and he is perfect in every other way so I am making the decision to buy.
kate081
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oooh exciting! I think you can be too cautious. The best horse (& most sound!) I bought I didn't even have vetted! Hope it goes well - keep us posted
Nels
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Just be aware that if it was spotted on the vetting then the insurance company will probably exclude sarcoids so you need to be prepared to pay out for any vet bills arising from them.... If you are happy with that and don't mind dealing with them then go for it!
Vicki_Krystal
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Annie - i brought my horse with sarcoids and they have never been a problem - have had him7yrs.
Just be aware that your insurance company will exclude sarcoids from his cover - and they are quite expensive to treat
Just be aware that your insurance company will exclude sarcoids from his cover - and they are quite expensive to treat
Nic74
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It's a bit of a gamble. My gelding has one at the top inside of his hind leg, it was removed by killing it off with an elastic band (it has come back now 3 years later and so far much smaller). Depends if you really like the horse and are prepared to take the risk. How old is the horse? Does the owner know how long that one has been there and if it is growing or seems to be stable at the moment?
Butterbean
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This is a bit like the horse my OH bought recently. At the vetting the vet found a few very small wart like growths. He couldn't say for sure what they were but didn't think they were sarcoids.
I have a horror of sarcoids (my older horse has a few on his sheath which dont cause him any bother at all & have grown very gradually over the last few years, but he also developed a sarcoid-like growth at the corner of his mouth which did cause a problem for a while) so wanted us to walk away from the sale. However OH was completely in love with the horse & bought her anyway (negotiated a discount on the basis that if they cause no problems in the next year he will pay an additional £x). So we will have to wait and see what happens.
Incidentally I was immediately expecting to have all skin problems excluded from the insurance, based on my experience with Petplan. However NFU are evidently more generous and she has no exclusions whatsoever!
I have a horror of sarcoids (my older horse has a few on his sheath which dont cause him any bother at all & have grown very gradually over the last few years, but he also developed a sarcoid-like growth at the corner of his mouth which did cause a problem for a while) so wanted us to walk away from the sale. However OH was completely in love with the horse & bought her anyway (negotiated a discount on the basis that if they cause no problems in the next year he will pay an additional £x). So we will have to wait and see what happens.
Incidentally I was immediately expecting to have all skin problems excluded from the insurance, based on my experience with Petplan. However NFU are evidently more generous and she has no exclusions whatsoever!