Vetting, would you have the bloods taken if..

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You knew the horse, knew it had been at your yard for schooling and was definitely not doped. Well known horse locally, owner didn't bat an eye at 5* vetting and she is well known in the area etc.

I am not sure if I am trying to talk myself out of it or into it!?

PS Also so not going to sleep tonight with the vetting due tomorrow! And I get to be there because I have a lovely boss!
 
Bloods are usually taken as part of the 5 stage vetting, they will be stored for 6 months and only tested if you request it for any reason later. So I would get the blood taken.
 
I always thought that taking and storing bloods for 6 months was an integral part of a 5 stage - then it was your responsibility to request them to be tested for whatever reason.

Does your vet do it as an optional extra? :confused:
 
What others have said always thought bloods being taken were standard at a 5* vetting and they are kept for 6 months. If before the 6 months is up you want them tested for any reason then you can if not after that they are destroyed.
 
It was this that made me question it:

A blood sample will be taken as a matter of course, and it will be sent to be stored at the Horseracing Forensic Laboratory in Newmarket. It can then be tested for the presence of painkillers or sedatives should this be suspected at a later date. The option for not taking a sample should be taken with extreme caution since once the opportunity is missed, any potential claim you may wish to pursue against the vendor will be significantly weakened without the evidence of the blood sample.

then later

(including the visit charge and blood sample fee etc)

It just confused me with it being an additional charge, I have only vetted once before and it was 2*. They are actually my vets as he is a local boy. Any clue about how much the blood sample fee could be?
 
I don't think bloods are too much on top of a 2 stage vetting. But always found them to be included in a 5 stage.

I would get them done but if I would always go with a 5 stage vetting if it's already backed.

Just watch it though as my recent 5 stage only keeps the bloods for 3 months where as other times/vets it has been 6.
 
Batgirl said:
Oh thanks guys, will have them done, just had a horror moment thinking they were going to be extortionate!

Soo excited for tomorrow :D
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Remember the sampling fee doesn't necessarily cover the cost of testing the sample if you choose to later :)

Good luck for tomorrow...have you posted pics of your potential boy yet? :D
 
I appreciate you know the horse/vendor's reputation etc so you are a bit of a 'special case'.

Taking the blood should be inc in the standard fee
or for a SMALL additional charge.
The costly bit is having it analysed if necessary, at a future date.

If it is standard in 5 stage nowadays
(wasn't when I last sold a horse that was 5-staged)
then it should be inc in price,
I would also consider the insurance implications of NOT having a standard part of vetting done
- you know what insurance cos are like for finding any excuse to get out of their obligations...

I had an interesting discussion on this with a local producer a while back...
they said they insisted bloods were taken
if a horse they sold was vetted

I asked why
and they said it protected their reputation
if someone subsequently tried to make out they'd sold a doctored horse

Some time later one of my clients was accused of doing just this
(it was a genuine private horse sale).
The purchaser had the bloods tested
and they came back negative
(i.e. no drugs found)
which removed a whole load of stress from my client's shoulders
as they then had to stop making such accusations...

the advice I was given years ago was
to tell the vendor several days in advance of the vetting that you are having bloods taken
then you probably don't need to have them done
... as they'd have to be pretty stupid to doctor them under those circumstances!!!
 
When my friend bought a horse who turned out to be a lunatic, it was felt by the vets (his own) who had done the vetting, that because there are so many different things which you can use it wasn't really viable to test the blood. This was about 10 years ago though. To be honest, if you want to make a horse quiet, you just deprieve it of water for a few days, then let them drink there fill.
 
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