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Mrs. Jingle

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I am so sorry to read this update on Moti, I had assumed that he was all Ok by now. :confused: I guess the only good thing is, if it is feasible, probably Fitzpatrick is one of the few with the expertise to treat him. But that predicted cost is huge, but I am sure you will go with your head as well as your heart and only you can decide which option to take, either will be the right one IMHO. I am also of the opinion if you can doesn't mean you should in all cases, but like you I would also be heavily swayed by images in my mind of how they are when their health is OK and be very tempted to go with Fitzpatrick's decision.

Such difficult decisions for you but I will cross everything that the prognosis is better than expected and something more easily fixed, hopefully.
 

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Thank you Mrs J..
He is so bright between pain bouts but he obviously cannot keep going like this and they are seeing him urgently in case he gets cord compression I think. Tomorrow will tell I guess. Today we will stay home and snuggle🥰. I think the decision will come down to how good long term prognosis will be given he is already on Librella for knee arthritis.
When we took on such a deformed skinny scrap with issues about everything I said if I got him past 8 I'd be doing well. He's about 9 or a bit more now and has certainly had some adventures.
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I was in a similar situation a few years ago, i was swaying to no surgery, and PTS because he was screaming in pain at times. OH was not completely onboard and wanted to give it a try. Scan showed cord compression, his spine had literally collapsed impinging the nerve and spinal surgery was needed. It cost a fortune but we amended the rehab to suit him, he was not used to a cage, so we didn't cage rest, but restricted him to a room at a time, where we were. Once he was recovered you could see he was a lot happier dog, he must have been in discomfort before the final 'collapse' and he had about 4/5 further years of a pain free happy life, he was 10 years when he had his surgery.
However he did not have any other underlying health issues, either decision will be the right one for you, your dog and your circumstances.
 

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I was in a similar situation a few years ago, i was swaying to no surgery, and PTS because he was screaming in pain at times. OH was not completely onboard and wanted to give it a try. Scan showed cord compression, his spine had literally collapsed impinging the nerve and spinal surgery was needed. It cost a fortune but we amended the rehab to suit him, he was not used to a cage, so we didn't cage rest, but restricted him to a room at a time, where we were. Once he was recovered you could see he was a lot happier dog, he must have been in discomfort before the final 'collapse' and he had about 4/5 further years of a pain free happy life, he was 10 years when he had his surgery.
However he did not have any other underlying health issues, either decision will be the right one for you, your dog and your circumstances.
Thank you. When Moti had his leg surgery years ago he wasn't cage rested either. We carried him around from room to room and he slept on our bed between our pillows tied to the headboard so he couldn't jump off.
I do wonder how long he has been so uncomfortable for. It's good to have another persepective x
 

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So dropped at Fitzpatricks. Having MRI this morning. Examination suggests he's neurogically intact so surgery not first option which is brilliant. We'll wait for results but lovely vet who saw him thinks steroid injection or another newer treatment might be the way forward if its just the nerve that's trapped and no spinal cord compression🤞.
He was a Spanish vet and Moti is from Spain. Vet said he obviously has a good dose of yorkie in him and Spanish bred yorkies have a high genetic predisposition to neck disc herniation. He was pleased to meet a fellow countryman 😁
 

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So dropped at Fitzpatricks. Having MRI this morning. Examination suggests he's neurogically intact so surgery not first option which is brilliant. We'll wait for results but lovely vet who saw him thinks steroid injection or another newer treatment might be the way forward if its just the nerve that's trapped and no spinal cord compression🤞.
He was a Spanish vet and Moti is from Spain. Vet said he obviously has a good dose of yorkie in him and Spanish bred yorkies have a high genetic predisposition to neck disc herniation. He was pleased to meet a fellow countryman 😁
That sounds like better news. I would have been reluctant to put him through surgery and rehab if he were mine but steroid injections are an altogether different prospect.
 

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He's home. He has two degenerated discs C5/6 and 6/7 I think. the lower one is worse and has narrowing of the areas where the nerves exit the vertebrae (foramin). He has had steroids and anaesthetic injected and is so much better already. We need to see how long this lasts and review in 4 weeks. He will have physio and hydrotherapy to help his muscle atrophy on the left side.
So it is great that he is happier and not limping and not yelping/screaming in pain. He may need surgery on the bad disc in the future and that would be major surgery so that would be another decision.
Thank you everyone for support and advice and allowing me to just waffle on xxxx
 

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I'm late to see the updates, but very glad to see that the Fitzpatrick clinic was able to offer a non-surgical option, which have helped him.
Fingers crossed for that the steroids + injections they gave him have an as long lasting effect as possible. 🤞
 

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Thanks all. He's out of pain. Had an amble through the woods, he rarely races around nowadays, looks sound and is dozing on the sofa with OH 🤞it will last. Physio/ hydrotherapy booked 10 days time to start building lost muscle.
 
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