Video- What do people think of this horse?

And don't ask for opinions here BEFORE you buy as everyone will shout "CRAP"! In the same vein of not revealing the baby's name until after the event.
 
I'm not sure that's fair, I think we probably just come across people with horses they shouldn't have bought, particularly with dealers and would like people to go in with their eyes wide open.

Wagtail her hocks are active but her front end is so much bigger than her hind I'm not sure their activity will ever support a 'light' front end. Having seen what AA has as a cob or two I would also take her opinions on conformation as gospel ;) :D.
 
cobgoblin said:
There you are then! You have experience of your own and don't really need any help from here. I suspect this thread is just muddying the water.
Don't forget to show us your new horse when you get him/her. Hopefully no one will be too rude!
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LOL Cobgoblin.

I've followed this thread with a jaundiced eye, as I'm hoping to get another horse this year (can't afford one at the moment), but I'm so 'out of the loop' these days, that I need to get a feel for current pricing and those dealers to definitely consider/avoid .

But this little mare in question has completely divided the opinions of people, so I don't think I'd dare post a 'what do you think of this horse?' thread. :-)
 
ester said:
I'm not sure that's fair, I think we probably just come across people with horses they shouldn't have bought, particularly with dealers and would like people to go in with their eyes wide open.

Wagtail her hocks are active but her front end is so much bigger than her hind I'm not sure their activity will ever support a 'light' front end. Having seen what AA has as a cob or two I would also take her opinions on conformation as gospel ;) :D.
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I wasn't actually disagreeing with her. I was just pointing out that she doesn't drag her hinds but uses them well so perhaps with proper schooling she could lighten. I don't have cobs, and never have, but I do like a very active hind end.
 
ester said:
At which point it can be more economical to have more of the basics in place to start.
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Absolutely! I was fortunate enough that I had the skill set but just lacked confidence so weekly lessons (which I'd have had either way!) have been enough to get us on track. It was more food for thought for the OP if she truly thought this horse was "the one" but was just doubting her own ability.
 
I would have liked to see this mare ridden in a decent straight cut saddle with a centrally balanced rider with longer stirrups. With a rider in a chair seat, practically perched on her neck, and in a saddle that's too small for him I don't think she had any choice but to be on the forehand. If she's always been ridden like that then her bum muscles haven't had a chance to develop.She could take a larger saddle as well.
 
This is a HW 4 year old cob (on a good day!)...dont label them all with the same brush. :)

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Personally for that money i would keep on looking. Its actually very hard to improve your riding if you have to work too hard with the horse on forwards imo. And i have been there with reschooling the most backwards warmblood. Its frustrating even to hack with friends as you end up getting left behind.
 
saddlesore said:
I still like her :-) I would go and see her again and spend some more time there, asking lots of questions. Good luck OP
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I agree, I thought that with the right schooling she could be a sweetie. OP one of the things that hasn't been mentioned on her is what is her character. I think that as a first timer you can put up with a lot if the horse has a really nice character.

And secondly, if you ask for opinions on here, you will never ever buy a horse, for some reason there are always more negative than positive feedback posts, what ever you buy won't be perfect and you will have to go through a learning curve.
 
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TheHairyOne said:
This is a HW 4 year old cob (on a good day!)...dont label them all with the same brush. :)

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Personally for that money i would keep on looking. Its actually very hard to improve your riding if you have to work too hard with the horse on forwards imo. And i have been there with reschooling the most backwards warmblood. Its frustrating even to hack with friends as you end up getting left behind.
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Yay, good pic to inspire us cob owners, they can be lovely and light and in self carriage!
 
She has a great character she is great on the ground and is sweetheart and she likes a big fuss
 
Puli. If you want her then get her vetted and if all is well buy her.
It doesn't really matter what us load of strangers on the Internet think.
Just check as much as you can. As advised i ) go for a second opinion with your instructor ii) get her vetted.
Let us know how you get on
 
Not read replies, but after having a few typical previous similar cobs....if you are mainly looking for bombproof hacking, then don't necessarily discredit her. Some of the most bombproof hacking cobs I used to ride years ago that came over from Ireland were not too dissimilar in the school as no schooling in their life - however were utterly safe and bombproof to hack in all aspects. If you don't mind starting over with the schooling in exchange for potentially a superb mannered hack - then keep your eyes open still :)
 
I am still not sure about the horse just so worried that she will be too green for me. My instructor cannot come to view the horse as she is too far away so I might send her the video too see if she thinks the horse is too green for me.
 
You can always speed them up. Much harder to slow them down. If your a novice. I've semi retired my TB ex racer. He's very sharp and unpredictable. Went out horse shopping end last year for a gelding. Viewed all types. Newly broken youngsters to a talented event horse. I ended up buying a 15 yr old un schooled mare. Goes round like a giraffe. shall start lessons with her once clock's change. Reason I bought her was her temperament. And I felt safe hacking her out on a viewing. I'm not a novice rider. But the nutty TB knocked my confidence. Go back for a second view and hack out again. But I do agree that the price is tOppy. And because my mare is a saddlebred, I have had to have a fitted saddle.
 
puli said:
I am still not sure about the horse just so worried that she will be too green for me. My instructor cannot come to view the horse as she is too far away so I might send her the video too see if she thinks the horse is too green for me.
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If you're not sure puli, then go with your instincts and wait a while. If the mare is still for sale, you can try her again and in the meantime go and see a few others. There's no shortage of horses for sale. Ultimately, although your instructors advice is valuable, it is you who will be riding the horse and therefore it is you who must make the decision.

I mentioned my first cob in a previous post and how much I loved him, but that was 20 years ago when 'things' were different and I was younger and bounced slightly better than now. He was a strong and nappy horse, who had been very badly broken in. It was a very steep learning curve for me back then, but he was good fun and jumped for fun and I had hours of pure joy with him... eventually. BUT, the same horse nowadays would be a different matter, because the roads are so much busier and therefore his cheeky, nappy antics would be very dangerous. Back then I'd perhaps see 6 cars on an average hack, but riding the same routes now, it would be more like 20 - 30 cars/vehicles, with quite a few lorries thrown in for good measure.

Good luck with whatever you decide, but please don't buy a horse after only trying once - an unsuitable horse is an expensive mistake to keep.
 
A good way for me to decide whether to buy a horse if I'm not sure, is to think about how I would feel if someone else bought it. If I would feel sorry, then I buy it. When I went to see my little mare, I absolutely loved her. My nagging doubt was whether she'd be big enough. Both parents were the size I wanted, but I knew she was small for her age and so it was a gamble. But then I thought about how I would feel if someone else bought her, and that made me get a deposit down on her subject to vetting. She IS going to be small for me, unfortunately, though she has had a little growth spurt and is just a fraction under 15hh now. I'm always going to look big on her, but as long as I am light enough, then I don't really care. I don't know what plan B is if she really does end up totally unsuitable. I won't want to sell her :(

Anyway, I had another look at the video of the cob in the OP and still really think she moves very well for her type. I think she WOULD lighten in front. She isn't much on her forehand even now, so I am sure she would be a very nice little mare.
 
Mines young and green and doesnt have many miles on the clock, but he is super safe. Temperament makes all the difference! Hes coming back into work now and its been really easy, because hes a nice pony and enjoys work. He occasionally does silly green pony things or says "NO!" but hes very polite about it all. I can hand on heart say he would never try to dislodge his rider. I was going to sell him as he hasnt made the height for me, so I dragged him in to take some videos for his ad today. 20 mins working him and hes not going anywhere!

Hes such a clown, he makes me cry with laughter. He also hacked out for the first time ever from his current yard after only being sat on 3 times since christmas. Horses were going nuts in the fields alongside him behind a huge hedge so he couldnt see them, just hear the galloping and snorting. He looked, flicked and ear and carried on. He was unsure about walking over a speed bump, but the worst he did was stop and then try and turn around.

My friend rode him and got off and said he just feels incredibly safe, even when hes not sure etc. He needs a lot of education and bringing on, but it makes it soo much easier when they are on side and safe!
 
puli said:
I am still not sure about the horse just so worried that she will be too green for me. My instructor cannot come to view the horse as she is too far away so I might send her the video too see if she thinks the horse is too green for me.
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If you're still unsure I would say perhaps she's not the one for you. All of the horses I've bought I've felt an instant "click" with when I've met/sat on them and knew before I'd even left that I'd be buying them subject to vetting.
 
I did have a click with her as soon as i left all i was thinking about was her that's all i have thought about since going. I did enjoy riding her it is just a bit of doubt because it is such a big decision
 
You like her and felt safe. Possibly a little overpriced but it would be a strange dealer who doesn't take an offer. You say you are novice but you could see she was napping. You are aware of your own weaknesses and have lessons. You will have her vetted. That all seems like the ingredients for a success story to me :)
 
I just think she seems nice and I deal with a little napping as long as she is good to hack and she has a great character. I would get her vetted to be on the safe side :)
 
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