Video: What do you think is wrong?

I disagree..............Looks like right hind to me (where who knows?), where he looks to be compensating with left................as you would...............so it looks unilateral and not in both hind legs, to me. But, I may be wrong.

Doesn't look like laminitis, to me either.

Have a chat with vet. Good luck.
 
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Wagtail said:
Personally I'd do the opposite. Need to keep him as still as possible in case it's a fracture. Need to rule that out first.
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Oh hadn't thought of that. Right op.... Don't walk! :p. although to be fair I meant stable, with gentle walks, to stop him going even more stiff, but yes I wasn't thinking fracture.
amymay said:
That needs the vet sooner rather than later, agree that he needs to be kept in. And I would be suspecting laminitis.
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Hmm, I'd be wary of lami too,

Op, if he's been away its possible he has been accessing grass etc, and he is quite portly, however you just never know... You can get laminitis triggered by a whole wealth of factors including concussive lami
 
Was the pony kept at livery?
Anyway you can contact YO?

Sending well wishes to the little fella, he doesnt look happy love him
 
Zero00000 said:
Was the pony kept at livery?
Anyway you can contact YO?
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No he was kept at their home. I have tried to get in contact via phone but either turned off or not in use anymore.

Vet is coming in the morning and fingers crossed there's nothing serious wrong with him.
 
There is really no excuse for the folk who had him to behave like this. You have been very kind (too kind) letting them have a trial and something has clearly happened to him and now they have foisted him back on you and blamed his character.

How long did they have him? Were they initially happy or did they mention the behaviour early on? How long between mentioning it and bringing him back?
 
FfionWinnie said:
How long did they have him? Were they initially happy or did they mention the behaviour early on? How long between mentioning it and bringing him back?
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They picked him up on a Saturday and he was gone for about 10 days. I was phoned and told 2 days before he came back that he hadn't settled in and was behaving like he was.
 
Pinky94 said:
They picked him up on a Saturday and he was gone for about 10 days. I was phoned and told 2 days before he came back that he hadn't settled in and was behaving like he was.
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Hmm, I reckon with a wild guess, that the fact you heard nothing negative for a week coupled with the fact that you now can't contact them... Something happened out there:mad: poor you and poor pony op, it's bad enough but you just wish people like that would at least be honest and give you something to go on, let us know the outcome tomorrow. Fingers crossed for your wee man x
 
Pinky94 said:
They picked him up on a Saturday and he was gone for about 10 days. I was phoned and told 2 days before he came back that he hadn't settled in and was behaving like he was.
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Liars. I'd keep at them, they must know and could save a fortune in investigations if you have a clue where to start. What a situation :mad:
 
FfionWinnie said:
Liars. I'd keep at them, they must know and could save a fortune in investigations if you have a clue where to start. What a situation :mad:
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agreed, disgusting treating you both like this if they were just honest at least you could narrow down possible causes and he could get the treatment he needs quicker.

any updates?
 
He does look very sore poor sole :( just everything about his backend doesnt look right, he isn't tracking up at all either so could suggest higher, it looks like hes tucking his back up?

Anyway, please keep us posted with what the vet says and I hope you get in touch with the trial people, would be bigger of them just to say what has happened rather than try and brush it under the carpet and ignore your calls, a poor pony is suffering and they obviously know whats happened :mad:
 
Thankyou all for your concern. :)

Vet has just been, she's not worried at all about laminitis, said he's a good weight and to keep him as he is.

She done flexion tests on all four legs as he isn't right on his fronts either due to being so uncomfortable behind but she said his fronts are fine.

She examined his hocks, fetlocks and hips and said it is definitely his hip/stifle that is the problem.

His joints aren't popping in and out of the sockets, but because he is a miniature, said that it may happen when he is older.

I've been told to put him on a good joint supplement and he is on 1/2 a sachet of bute for 3 days, to then be cut down to 1/4 a day until the course is over. He is due the second part of his tetanus in about two weeks so I am to keep him rested and on the bute until then to see if it makes a difference and she will examine him again when she comes back out.


Just because he's adorable :)
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This was an equine vet???

Was he given finadyne to help him with the pain? Looking at the video again, yes perhaps laminitis is right to be ruled out.

Are you to box rest him or field rest him?

Sorry, it wouldn't be good enough for me.
 
amymay said:
This was an equine vet???

Was he given finadyne to help him with the pain? Looking at the video again, yes perhaps laminitis is right to be ruled out.

Are you to box rest him or field rest him?

Sorry, it wouldn't be good enough for me.
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Yeah she's an equine vet. I've been Pro-Dynam phenylbutazone.

To be kept in his stable but he's allowed to go for a little wander just to make sure he's kept supple.

I'm not 100% happy but will give the bute a go and see if it makes much difference. :z

What's the best way to get it into him? Syringe it? or give him a tiny bit of speedi-beet or fast fibre with it in?
 
Pinky94 said:
Yeah she's an equine vet. I've been Pro-Dynam phenylbutazone.

To be kept in his stable but he's allowed to go for a little wander just to make sure he's kept supple.

I'm not 100% happy but will give the bute a go and see if it makes much difference. :z

What's the best way to get it into him? Syringe it? or give him a tiny bit of speedi-beet or fast fibre with it in?
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I would give him i tniny amount of fast fibre, literally just enough for him to take the bute.

Do you know where these people live? Sorry if this was mentioned on your original post, but was he on a trial or actually out on loan (baby brain has caused me to forget what was said in your original post already!)? Was any sort of contract signed?

I hope he starts to feel a bit better soon and you find the cause of this.
 
Personally I'd use a little speedi-beet to get the bute in to him.

Was the vet absolutely sure there was no break anywhere??
 
She didn't mention a break but I think I may get a different vet out for a second opinion :/

Stupid of me I know, but no contract was signed. I did relieve a text today!!! She said he didn't do anything that she knows of but I dont believe her. She was doing a lot of work with him to get him ready for the show ring.
 
Hmmm.

Out of pure interest (cos he is so cute lol) is he biting etc. that they described now he's back with you?
Is his spine a little prominent or is it a trick of the light in the video? How is he walking and standing when loose?
 
amandap said:
Hmmm.

Out of pure interest (cos he is so cute lol) is he biting etc. that they described now he's back with you?
Is his spine a little prominent or is it a trick of the light in the video? How is he walking and standing when loose?
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Nope he's shown none of the behaviour since back with me. He likes to chew his lead rope but he has got two teeth coming through, but never bitten me. No his spine isn't prominent.

He's only in his stable at the moment because his paddock is flooded. He rests his near hind more than his off hind. He prefers not to move to be honest. Before he used to love going for walks and I couldn't keep him from trotting but now he doesn't want to move, poor boy.

Am going to pop into the other vet clinic in town and show them the video and see what they say.
 
Not wanting to move says he's in discomfort and that could be from anywhere :(, so I think getting a second opinion is a great idea. Not knowing what is going on is the worst place to be ime. x
 
I would not be happy with what the vet said at all! He is moving as though he may have a fracture of the head of his femur or of his pelvis. I would be wanting scans and xrays (though difficult to xray pevis and femur in ponies and horses). If he is insured, I would want a referral to an equine hospital for possible scintigraphy.
 
Wagtail said:
I would not be happy with what the vet said at all! He is moving as though he may have a fracture of the head of his femur or of his pelvis. I would be wanting scans and xrays (though difficult to xray pevis and femur in ponies and horses). If he is insured, I would want a referral to an equine hospital for possible scintigraphy.
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He is insured. How do I go about getting him referred? Never dealt with anything like this before.
 
Poor little ma.

If he's insured then it'll be an easy case of you just kicking up a hell of a storm with your vet and get the little fella x-rayed ASAP!!

Good luck with him and keep us updated with progress, pleassssssse.
 
Second vet has been today and he has also said it's his stifle. It locks a little bit in walk but in trot he is nearly sound. Typically today he wasn't as bad as he has been but I showed the vet the video and he said it's definitely his stifle.

Lovely vet and he said to start to exercise him to build the muscle up and see if it makes a difference once the ligaments are a bit stronger.

Im to stop the bute the other vet prescribed, and if he is as bad off of it, to let him know and he will come back out and do nerve blocks.

Fingers crossed with a bit of exercise, the ligaments will become stronger and I'll have a sound pony again!

Thank you all for your suggestions ((:
 
Pinky94 said:
Second vet has been today and he has also said it's his stifle. It locks a little bit in walk but in trot he is nearly sound. Typically today he wasn't as bad as he has been but I showed the vet the video and he said it's definitely his stifle.

Lovely vet and he said to start to exercise him to build the muscle up and see if it makes a difference once the ligaments are a bit stronger.

Im to stop the bute the other vet prescribed, and if he is as bad off of it, to let him know and he will come back out and do nerve blocks.

Fingers crossed with a bit of exercise, the ligaments will become stronger and I'll have a sound pony again!

Thank you all for your suggestions ((:
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I am astonished that no-one wants to scan your horse. Stifle joints are incredibly complex (it's our knee) and it could be one of a number of things, some of which will be made worse by exercise and some of which can't be cured without an operation. I'm all for not spending money unnecessarily on diagnotics, I've ranted often about it on this forum. But I would want at least some scans and xrays on your horse before putting him to work, given how lame he was in that video soon after it happened.
 
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