Slinkyunicorn
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views on parelli??
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Araminta
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Same old, same old........ everytime someone mentions Parelli out come all the "its rubbish" overpriced , not as good as Monty blah blah blah.......
I wonder how many of these people actually "know" anything about Natural horsemanship? Thats right...... Natural Horsemanship..... the same thing as used many many years ago by the true cowboys/ indian whos horses were their living and their lives. There is nothing new about any of this - Parelli, Monty Roberts and all the other "alternative" trainers.
Does it work? Depends who is on the other end of the rope.
I had a big thank you from a client whos horse had refused to move anymore in its lessons with a big dressage trainer. Sure that trainer could teach half pass, extensions and collection but had not a clue what to do or say when the horse in question decided that going round in ever decreasing circles being asked for more and more was no longer an option in his world and just stood still. Giving him a big crack with a dressage whip just made him stand up and wave his front legs at the trainer........ ooops
Clever horse - he needs to know when he has done well by having the pressure taken off, not just pushed for more and more, longer and longer.
I find it very odd thast a lot of people on this forum will slate Parelli on the basis that they have seen " a lady on their yard" doing it and the lady " still can't ride her horse"
You know what - not everyone who keeps horses wants to ride them.
Maybe that seems strange to a lot od people but its true.
I will get off my soap box now.
"scuttles away"
samstar
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Araminta
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you should have seen what some parelli prat did to my boy (before i got him, had to undo all the fantastic work they did with him!!!!!)
scared of "carrot sticks", so over lunged he didn't know how to walk in a straight line when you rode him, reared when he had a halter on. put the bugger in the feild for a few month use a head collar and work my arse off reschooling him and i have everyone trying to steal him he is so lovely, you wouldn't reconise him from 4 yrs ago, the dangerous horse that couldn't be ridden and should be PTS is the first 3 photos in my signature for anyone who is intersted.
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Well done you for taking a dangerous horse like this and turning it around.
Do you know for sure that the Parelli prat as you so charmingly put is was responsible for creating this dangerous horse,or had they tried ( and failed) with their method?
As I said before - I depends who is on the end of the rope.
One thing though - you say it had been lunged so much that it couldn't walk in a straight line? That is not Parelli - they don't lunge horses
you should have seen what some parelli prat did to my boy (before i got him, had to undo all the fantastic work they did with him!!!!!)
scared of "carrot sticks", so over lunged he didn't know how to walk in a straight line when you rode him, reared when he had a halter on. put the bugger in the feild for a few month use a head collar and work my arse off reschooling him and i have everyone trying to steal him he is so lovely, you wouldn't reconise him from 4 yrs ago, the dangerous horse that couldn't be ridden and should be PTS is the first 3 photos in my signature for anyone who is intersted.
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Well done you for taking a dangerous horse like this and turning it around.
Do you know for sure that the Parelli prat as you so charmingly put is was responsible for creating this dangerous horse,or had they tried ( and failed) with their method?
As I said before - I depends who is on the end of the rope.
One thing though - you say it had been lunged so much that it couldn't walk in a straight line? That is not Parelli - they don't lunge horses
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Brummyrat
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I have nothing against starting a baby horse on the ground this way, without the stick obviously, but thats basic common sense, you build a bond and the horse earns respect in a quiet manner but what bugs me is, for example, two ladies on my yard who have older horses, one is lovely and to me doesnt need any "re-education", his owner has just got drawn in by the marketing, and the other is a bolshy old cob and Im sorry, the day after her first session when he dragged her across the yard and took off into one of the fields wearing his dually I had to stifle a laugh, naughty aren't I. I offered advice but she ignored it so good luck to her
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samstar
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LadyRascasse
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you should have seen what some parelli prat did to my boy (before i got him, had to undo all the fantastic work they did with him!!!!!)
scared of "carrot sticks", so over lunged he didn't know how to walk in a straight line when you rode him, reared when he had a halter on. put the bugger in the feild for a few month use a head collar and work my arse off reschooling him and i have everyone trying to steal him he is so lovely, you wouldn't reconise him from 4 yrs ago, the dangerous horse that couldn't be ridden and should be PTS is the first 3 photos in my signature for anyone who is intersted.
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Well done you for taking a dangerous horse like this and turning it around.
Do you know for sure that the Parelli prat as you so charmingly put is was responsible for creating this dangerous horse,or had they tried ( and failed) with their method?
As I said before - I depends who is on the end of the rope.
One thing though - you say it had been lunged so much that it couldn't walk in a straight line? That is not Parelli - they don't lunge horses
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from what they told me the weren't allowed to do it loose. i no they practised parelli as they a)told me and b) gave me some of the things they used.
everyhorse can go bad in the wrong hands, imo parelli just makes it easy.
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you should have seen what some parelli prat did to my boy (before i got him, had to undo all the fantastic work they did with him!!!!!)
scared of "carrot sticks", so over lunged he didn't know how to walk in a straight line when you rode him, reared when he had a halter on. put the bugger in the feild for a few month use a head collar and work my arse off reschooling him and i have everyone trying to steal him he is so lovely, you wouldn't reconise him from 4 yrs ago, the dangerous horse that couldn't be ridden and should be PTS is the first 3 photos in my signature for anyone who is intersted.
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Well done you for taking a dangerous horse like this and turning it around.
Do you know for sure that the Parelli prat as you so charmingly put is was responsible for creating this dangerous horse,or had they tried ( and failed) with their method?
As I said before - I depends who is on the end of the rope.
One thing though - you say it had been lunged so much that it couldn't walk in a straight line? That is not Parelli - they don't lunge horses
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from what they told me the weren't allowed to do it loose. i no they practised parelli as they a)told me and b) gave me some of the things they used.
everyhorse can go bad in the wrong hands, imo parelli just makes it easy.
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lauraandjack
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Now I believe that 'natural' horsemanship has its place and I have dabbled in it a little with good success (I'm talking basic handling here not pratting about with balls and barrels) BUT I think it is all a bit of reinventing the wheel and in all honesty a lot of the principles are just basic horsemanship.
There do seem to be a fair few numpties that love the methods but in all honesty I think some people will have the same disasterous results whatever method of horsemanship they use.
Parelli/ NH does teach some very useful things about using your body language (it's not all about waving sticks around). Having watched 3 people struggle for quite some time to load a horse into a trailer at a show today, it's amazing how the wrong body language can let a horse walk all over you. This horse wasn't scared, it was just taking the proverbial. And they were letting it. A bit of positive mental attitude and different body language would have made all the difference I think.
There do seem to be a fair few numpties that love the methods but in all honesty I think some people will have the same disasterous results whatever method of horsemanship they use.
Parelli/ NH does teach some very useful things about using your body language (it's not all about waving sticks around). Having watched 3 people struggle for quite some time to load a horse into a trailer at a show today, it's amazing how the wrong body language can let a horse walk all over you. This horse wasn't scared, it was just taking the proverbial. And they were letting it. A bit of positive mental attitude and different body language would have made all the difference I think.
Booboos
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I am a right brain extrovert so I inadvertantly respond to this post with exasperation, incredulity and fed-uppedness, but what can you do??? We're all predetermined by which parts of our brain we use
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All I can say to that is *We're not worthy*
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All I can say to that is *We're not worthy*
Toffee popcorn please - might as well get fat whilst I read
little_flea
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My favourite Parelli story came from this forum recently - someone here (please make yourself known if you recognise this!) went to try a horse. It seemed nice. It was in a Parelli home so the owner had to ask thye horse if it was ok to ride it. the horse said no so they went home.
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Araminta
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My favourite Parelli story came from this forum recently - someone here (please make yourself known if you recognise this!) went to try a horse. It seemed nice. It was in a Parelli home so the owner had to ask thye horse if it was ok to ride it. the horse said no so they went home.
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Ha ha, funny story - probably just that - a funny story.
Would I go to see a horse that I had not already asked questions about on the phone ( including what it was like to ride!) No, would other people? I would imagine not if they had more than one brain cell .
Anyway, if it was someont from this forum Im suprised they even went to see a Parelli trained horse as they are so messed up and headshy ( according to a lot of comments that have been posted here)
My favourite Parelli story came from this forum recently - someone here (please make yourself known if you recognise this!) went to try a horse. It seemed nice. It was in a Parelli home so the owner had to ask thye horse if it was ok to ride it. the horse said no so they went home.
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Ha ha, funny story - probably just that - a funny story.
Would I go to see a horse that I had not already asked questions about on the phone ( including what it was like to ride!) No, would other people? I would imagine not if they had more than one brain cell .
Anyway, if it was someont from this forum Im suprised they even went to see a Parelli trained horse as they are so messed up and headshy ( according to a lot of comments that have been posted here)
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pmsl
I have a great bond with my horses, they're easy to do in every way, they follow me around the field, load easily, and are happy to ride and drive. I'm sure if I asked them to play with a giant ball they would oblige though I can't really see the point.
Strangely I have never done Parelli, yet when I have watched Parelli they seem to imply that any other method of training is cruel and that without Parelli you can't possibly have a close bond with your horse? It is this narrow minded approach that really puts me off, oh, and the fact thet a lot of the horses look very stressed by what they are being asked to do.
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I have a great bond with my horses, they're easy to do in every way, they follow me around the field, load easily, and are happy to ride and drive. I'm sure if I asked them to play with a giant ball they would oblige though I can't really see the point.
Strangely I have never done Parelli, yet when I have watched Parelli they seem to imply that any other method of training is cruel and that without Parelli you can't possibly have a close bond with your horse? It is this narrow minded approach that really puts me off, oh, and the fact thet a lot of the horses look very stressed by what they are being asked to do.
S14Tobin
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I think she means they asked the horse if it would let them ride it - not that they got there before asking how it was to ride
My two-penneth - Parelli - looks expensive, looks easy to mess up, and if it aint broke, don't fix it (by all means Im up for improvement but...) however, I went on a 2 day course with a MR trainer a few years ago - learned alot which I use with the stuff I always have, guess it's common sense really - but carrot sticks to me are something you eat...
My two-penneth - Parelli - looks expensive, looks easy to mess up, and if it aint broke, don't fix it (by all means Im up for improvement but...) however, I went on a 2 day course with a MR trainer a few years ago - learned alot which I use with the stuff I always have, guess it's common sense really - but carrot sticks to me are something you eat...
Chellebean
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Can I have some of the spare popcorn please if any is going spare???
Can I have some of the spare popcorn please if any is going spare???
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NHP
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well i dont think any of you are in a position to judge parelli unless you have tried it. ive been riding for 15 years and competed alot but only found parelli about 2 years ago and god i wish i had found it sooner!
and if it is infact just cleverly marketed common sense it is very suprising how many 'normal' riders do not possess this!
and if it is infact just cleverly marketed common sense it is very suprising how many 'normal' riders do not possess this!
charlyan
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Not sure if you were aiming your response at me in particular but I have looked into Parelli with an open mind and base my opnion on this.
I got back into horses after a long break three/ four years ago and explored alot of the new wave of techniques that had appeared in the interim, Parelli included.
I have good friends who are members of the parelli club (exact name escapes me atm) and therefore seen some of the resources used and seen positive effects on one of their horses, but they admitted it had only got them so far with him.
As I said, it works with some horses/ handlers but not all and it's not for me and it is over priced for what it is. Sorry.
I got back into horses after a long break three/ four years ago and explored alot of the new wave of techniques that had appeared in the interim, Parelli included.
I have good friends who are members of the parelli club (exact name escapes me atm) and therefore seen some of the resources used and seen positive effects on one of their horses, but they admitted it had only got them so far with him.
As I said, it works with some horses/ handlers but not all and it's not for me and it is over priced for what it is. Sorry.