Was I right to say no

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Dancing_Diva

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I had a pony go out on loan with view to buy three weeks ago. It was agreed and signed by both parties that they'd have a four week trial ending on the 16th which the pony would either be returned or brought in full for the agreed sum.

I messaged today to see how pony was only to get a response saying pony was great but could they have another months trial as they'd not had chance to do anything with pony and child.

I'm afraid I said no! They've had three weeks, its school holidays, they own there own yard have two schools etc so why they've not had chance to do anything with child and pony I don't know! Part of me wonders was they hoping for a pony on loan for the summer holidays then return her to me?

Was I wrong for saying no, or would others have said no also?
 
I think you were right to say no, they knew they had 4 weeks they should have cracked on and made sure they crammed everything in that they wanted to do with the pony, did you ask why they have not ridden the pony in 3 weeks? sounds a bit strange to be honest.
 
I would of said no, to me you were most certainly not wrong, only 4 weeks or so until the children go back to school if the child is not excited enough to be with that pony every second for the last few weeks why do they want you to wait another 4 weeks
 
fwiw I had my horse on a months trial from someone I knew he had the first day off the day I picked him up then I basically rode him as much as I possibly could so I was certain he was what I wanted and that it would work for us both, what's the point of taking a horse on trial if your not gonna try it out its crazy.
 
Right call.
In fact I'd say you are happy to collect this weekend.
They will either put their hand in their pocket or you will nicely mess up a PC rally/show
 
The woman has read my message but so far not responded since I sent a reply over four hours ago saying no to a further months trial.

Tempted just to say I'll come collect her on the 16th when the agreed contract is up. If she gets funny I'll just go get her sooner. Glad it's not just me who thinks it's odd, like few of you say school holidays is up soon so bit sus that they want another four weeks trial then school holidays be up and I'll prob have pony sent back!
 
Absolutely right. I have a pony on loan which arrived 3 weeks ago. She's been walked out in hand, lunged, ridden in the field, on the forest and been to a show. We have her with a view to buy but have a longer period in which to decide, but I've made sure that we have done things with the pony!!

She's had your pony long enough to know whether they like it or not and plenty of time to ride etc. Collection on the 16th if not before I think is the right call.
 
I wouldn't even give her until the 16th. You want to sell and she doesn't want to buy without another 4wks trial, so why does she need the pony for almost another week? I'd go fetch it now, it's another week you've got available then for viewings from hopefully serious buyers.
 
Thanks all for replies.

Does this sound ok message wise?

Hi ******

Following our conversation earlier I think it'll be best that I come collect ******* over the weekend. I cannot commit to another four weeks trail and feel it fair that the four weeks we originally set was a fair period of time for you to have fully tried ******* out to make sure she was suitable for your daughter. I'm sorry it has come to this but I cannot risk loosing another four weeks of potential sales if come four weeks time you turn round and say she's not suitable and wish to return her!

If you could let me know a day/time that's best for you I'll come down to collect *********.
 
Dancing_Diva said:
Thanks all for replies.

Does this sound ok message wise?

Hi ******

Following our conversation earlier I think it'll be best that I come collect ******* over the weekend. I cannot commit to another four weeks trail and feel it fair that the four weeks we originally set was a fair period of time for you to have fully tried ******* out to make sure she was suitable for your daughter. I'm sorry it has come to this but I cannot risk loosing another four weeks of potential sales if come four weeks time you turn round and say she's not suitable and wish to return her!

If you could let me know a day/time that's best for you I'll come down to collect *********.
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Seems fine to me. I suspect it will either elicit a sale or a rude response! The result will let you know of they were serious buyers.
 
Dancing_Diva said:
Thanks all for replies.

Does this sound ok message wise?

Hi ******

Following our conversation earlier I think it'll be best that I come collect ******* over the weekend. I cannot commit to another four weeks trail and feel it fair that the four weeks we originally set was a fair period of time for you to have fully tried ******* out to make sure she was suitable for your daughter. I'm sorry it has come to this but I cannot risk loosing another four weeks of potential sales if come four weeks time you turn round and say she's not suitable and wish to return her!

If you could let me know a day/time that's best for you I'll come down to collect *********.
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I think I would keep it a bit simpler, Following our conversation earlier I am disappointed that you have not been able to ride ****** so unable to commit to buying her, if you have decided you want to keep her then please send the sum of £*** on or before 16th Aug ( not sure what payment arrangement you have but include, bank transfer/ cash or whatever) otherwise I will collect her this weekend either day is suitable for me if you can let me know when is most convenient for you.


That way you leave them the option of buying which saves you the hassle of finding someone else, they may be trying to get a free pony for the holidays but they may be genuine and need a push.
 
Dancing_Diva said:
Thanks all for replies.

Does this sound ok message wise?

Hi ******

Following our conversation earlier I think it'll be best that I come collect ******* over the weekend. I cannot commit to another four weeks trail and feel it fair that the four weeks we originally set was a fair period of time for you to have fully tried ******* out to make sure she was suitable for your daughter. I'm sorry it has come to this but I cannot risk loosing another four weeks of potential sales if come four weeks time you turn round and say she's not suitable and wish to return her!

If you could let me know a day/time that's best for you I'll come down to collect *********.
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I wouldn't even go into as much detail as that. They didn't adhere to the agreement end of story.
 
Dancing_Diva said:
I've just sent a message saying I wish to collect over the weekend. Let's see how this goes.
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I would not send any more messages -she is clearly ignoring you-I would be turning up to the yard and seeing her face to face to get this sorted and see her body language-go there tomorrow
 
sunshine100* said:
I would not send any more messages -she is clearly ignoring you-I would be turning up to the yard and seeing her face to face to get this sorted and see her body language-go there tomorrow
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She's not the greatest at replying to messages, so don't think it's a case of she's ignoring me as such.
 
I'm not for one minute making excuses for her it's just a true fact!!

Anyway I now don't know what to do, I've had a response saying that she didn't mean for one minute she wouldn't or couldn't commit to our arranged payment date. Just that she's not had much time for her daughter to do much these past three weeks and that she thought it would have been better to do a longer loan!

I don't want to sell and then her say ponies not right and sell it on after another few weeks. Do I just stick to my decision and go get pony back? I have the room etc.. was just pony was wasted with no small enough rider at mine anymore. I'll just break her to drive and keep over winter and do some indoor winter showing.
 
I do feel for you D_D - I think you have 100% done the right thing, and would agree with be positive (as usual!) with her (?) suggested reply
 
I've had reply saying that she never said she wouldn't be buying her, but that she's had no time for her daughter recently so left it would have been better to extend the loan. But she's happy to stick to the original date.

I don't want to risk the pony getting sold on again in few weeks if not suitable (altho cannot see why she wouldn't be) ponies a Shetland and child's aboit 3yrs old. My head says go and get her, what do I do? Altho not thousands I couldn't afford to buy her back should she sell her again in few weeks time as not suitable. Hence why I said a months loan first to ensure she was suitable.
 
Dancing_Diva said:
I'm not for one minute making excuses for her it's just a true fact!!

Anyway I now don't know what to do, I've had a response saying that she didn't mean for one minute she wouldn't or couldn't commit to our arranged payment date. Just that she's not had much time for her daughter to do much these past three weeks and that she thought it would have been better to do a longer loan!

I don't want to sell and then her say ponies not right and sell it on after another few weeks. Do I just stick to my decision and go get pony back? I have the room etc.. was just pony was wasted with no small enough rider at mine anymore. I'll just break her to drive and keep over winter and do some indoor winter showing.
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I think you have slightly overreacted, which is why I suggested wording a more careful reply not jump to typical HHO conclusions that everyone is out to rip you off, she probably hasn't done as much as she planned, the weather has been dreadful for one thing and when your first message arrived she just thought it worth asking, she still has a week anyway, you don't need to rush over and pick her up let them have until the 16th from the sound of things it will make no difference if she comes back this weekend or next, it is times like this that messaging is not ideal, a phone conversation would have enabled you both to communicate more clearly.

Just seen your last post if you are so concerned she will get passed on why not give them another 2 weeks to let them be really certain, this type of pony will get passed on after a few years anyway so you either loan or keep them if you really want to ensure their future.
 
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You originally gave them to the 16th to try the pony, I would keep to that, its still another 5 days, 5 days is quite some time to ride around a school, hack out and play with a pony. It may just spur her on to get cracking and one way or another in 5 days you will know what you need to do

You are not asking her to rush into making a decision, you have kindly given her 4 weeks to decide, she still has until the 16th to say one way or another. Its not winter and its school holidays so I don't feel that you are not applying any pressure at all

I do wonder if you hadn't contacted her if she would of contacted you prior to the 16th or just let it drift along. I know someone who wanted me to collect her 2 ponies and offered me the use of her trailer but she just couldn't remember who had borrowed the trailer last or where it was, she wasn't telling lies that is how she lives, its odd to me but perfectly normal to her :)
 
Definitely think you are right to say no! She is after a free pony for the summer! As others have said, go and pick it up asap! If I was in no desperate hurry to sell, I wouldn't let her buy it even if she wanted now...

ETA: She may well not have had time, but 3/4 weeks is still a reasonable enough time to know whether or not you want a pony IMO and by her having her longer you still risk her not wanting to buy, when pony could have spent that time with another family who do have time for it and want to buy it :-)
 
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I reckon if she'd wanted to find the time she would have done. Sounds like she's after a free pony for the summer and you'll get the "come and collect her" call about 2 days after the kids go back to school. And I wouldn't sell the pony to her either. If she can't be bothered, she won't be bothered.
 
Personally, I think you've got to give her the original trial period to decide as that what you originally agreed and it's unfair to change that now. She's said she can decide but would have preferred longer and you've said she can't have longer - end of. She can now make her decision by 16th. You could ask to have first refusual to buy back if things don't work out - this sort of agreement isn't always honoured but often can be.
 
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