Was it my riding that made him do this?! *Video*

I thought he looked lame but then i thought he was just trying to canter. Just looked like a bit of excuberance. If he was lame he probably wouldn't want to be jumping around cos that would hurt even more
 
i think the reason he wont come through into a secure contact is due to some kind of discomfort or impeding( he is really rushing too) ! The reason i feel he did what he did, was the only way he could tell you 'im struggling to do it' He looks to me to be evaiding, and that could be for a number of reasons. He may not be showing or feeling really unlevel but for what ever reason he is not able to work in a true outline or truely through at the mo!! Do You have a Physio for him?? does she suggest slow long and low work???
 
I actually don't think he is lame per se, I think he was trying to break into canter and is completely out of rhythm. You need to be far more still in canter, and you need to ride more with your seat and not the reins. If he IS lame, I reckon it is bridle lame rather than physical - but it is bloody hard to judge from that video.
 
He is unlevel - also, getting off after he misbehaved (lame or not) has just taught him how to end a session on his terms, when he fancies.
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He see's a physio every 3 months, he's due again in may- she just suggested lots of hacking etc and get him working through his backend but i cant get him to do this.

Ive had lessons, i still do have them on him but not recently due to finances and they had us doing pole work etc.
 
Don't you dare give up
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don't feel bad, I am also really rubbish with lameness. I can feel when she is not right (like at the moment) but I am rubbish at telling where it is coming from....if I say its the near fore you can almost guarentee its the off fore
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and if its any further consolation I'm terrible for riding with straight arms. Can a friend trot him up and help you check for soundness?? The video is very jumpy so makes it hard to see properly xx
 
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He is unlevel - also, getting off after he misbehaved (lame or not) has just taught him how to end a session on his terms, when he fancies.
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I know it wasnt ideal- i did get back on and walk him around though.
 
i dont think he looks lame and i dont think its your riding that caused that!! ride him through it next time he looks like hes taking the piss!!
 
dont be silly you cant give up, youve just got started
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!!!!! Your a lovely little jockey just need to get this chap working,and keep the sessions with trainer up, if you cant afford sessions what about watching some pros ride will help to improve feel, ect. RE the horse tho i would have a chat with your physio and get some serious suggestions out of him/her eg lunging (if poss) long and low, or maybe some of the more experienced riders on here may have some suggestions for you!!
 
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Has he got his shoe back on now?

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Yes, was put back on tuesday.

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Good. My honest opinion is that he still looks unlevel - much the same as when you posted the video of him the other day. I wonder if the brusing is still causing a problem? The best way to find out is to quietly lunge him and see how he looks.

I know with my horse if he bruises his sole, he can be sore for quite some time.
 
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Has he got his shoe back on now?

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Yes, was put back on tuesday.

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Good. My honest opinion is that he still looks unlevel - much the same as when you posted the video of him the other day. I wonder if the brusing is still causing a problem? The best way to find out is to quietly lunge him and see how he looks.

I know with my horse if he bruises his sole, he can be sore for quite some time.

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Ahhhhhhhhhh more info! I didn't realise he had had probs!
 
I think it looks as though he gets a hit from that tailbag in the canter and then when he moves away from it, the tailbag hits him again and the more he tries to get away from it the mor reaction he is getting from the tailbag.

He may have been free schooled/lunged in it before and been OK, but perhaps if he was looking for an excuse (his lack of willingness to go forwards in this video suggests he may have been in that sort of mood), then he would use such a thing as an excuse.

Just a thought.

He does look quite hoppy in front, and a little unbalanced (flexion is to the outside as well) so it's difficult to tell, without knowing him, if he does look actually lame or not, but he doesn't look right. If he had a sore foot earlier in the week then it could either still be sore, or he could be anticipating pain.

I know when my mare managed to tread a nail into the sole of her foot, she was doing the same hoppy-in-front action and chosing to push into canter than trot. When i recognised that she was not evading work (she was a right stubborn bat).

I hope he comes right soon.
 
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I actually don't think he is lame per se, I think he was trying to break into canter and is completely out of rhythm. You need to be far more still in canter, and you need to ride more with your seat and not the reins. If he IS lame, I reckon it is bridle lame rather than physical - but it is bloody hard to judge from that video.

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I agree, it looks more like a bridle lameness to me too. Everything looked a little rushed and tense therefore lacking rythm. Your arms are very straight which, as Weezy has said, makes you rely a little to much on the rein, exacerbating the whole tense thing, try to relax more (I know easier said than done) and ride forward into a rythm, counting one......two.........one.......two in your head when trotting can help.
 
he looks rushed and unbalanced but its hard to see if he is lame or just messing about..
i would trot up up and lunge himj to check he is sound.
prehaps you are pushing a bit too much and need to soften your elbow a bit more...
i dont think your riding was the cause of the bucking fit really.more that he looks very tense and unhappy in the trot preceding, which isnt a good lead into cantering.
prehaps morecircle work and getting him soft and balanced would help?
also thought the tail thing was smacking him a abit which probably doesnt help!
 
He will do this every time you ride him if you get off every time he puts a little buck in. Sit back kick him on and even a quick smack with your whip, he was being a git,he didnt even do anything that bad, a little buck and span round and you get off. You might have gone the whole way and given him a polo as well.
 
QR: Are you sure the tailbag hasn't smacked him in the arse?
When I watched the video the first time he looked lame in front for about 15 seconds, then ok, then lame again - but when I watched again I wondered if his natural gait is like this. However, he is seriously rushing. I would look to slow the trot down
 
I think he was within his rights to start bucking.

I too would end up cross if that thing on my tail kept hitting me between my legs!

He was trying to run into canter at the start of the video and the trot was very rushed.

I suggest you watch the video again and see what that bag on his tail is doing
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Its because his tail is awful and it stops the mud ruining it thats all.

To be honest, i had forgetten it was on until someone hacking past (you can here me talking to them on the video) saw him buck and asked if that could be the reason- then i got off, took it off and rode him around in walk once just to finish.

I appreciate some people may think 'whats she complaining about that was nothing' but im not a very confident rider and i worried it was my fault as obv i dont want a horse bucking because im sh1t!
 

The tail gaitor is a bag to put the tail in and keep it clean.

I really don't think you should ride with one on for obvious reasons - see video!
 
My horse always anticipates canter and hops into it. I find if i just keep rising and ignore him and then use half halts he gets the idea. I had so much trouble with Darcy in the beginning with him rearing/ bolting/ bucking/ napping/ spooking..you name it he did it
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But ive carried on and as posted earlier, am having lots of fun
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it does take a lot of work, and i used to feel sick as i tacked him up etc and feel i should sell him to someone more capable. But look at the positives and what you could achieve with him
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gives you something to look forward to. Dont give up!! lol
 
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Its because his tail is awful and it stops the mud ruining it thats all.

To be honest, i had forgetten it was on until someone hacking past (you can here me talking to them on the video) saw him buck and asked if that could be the reason- then i got off, took it off and rode him around in walk once just to finish.

I appreciate some people may think 'whats she complaining about that was nothing' but im not a very confident rider and i worried it was my fault as obv i dont want a horse bucking because im sh1t!

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Thats fine but I strongly advise that you remove the bag before riding.

You say he was ridden for 20 mins before you got on him?

Probably totally pissed off with being hit up the bum by then.
 
Ok I think the buck was probably caused by the tail bag.

I saw his other vid the other day. He looks lame to me though he is rushing, though this may be linked. He may have trotted up sound on a straight line but it will be more noticeable on a circle or in this case- with you riding him.

I would lunge him on a variety of surfaces (arena, grass etc) pref with someone experienced or your vet to try and assess his soundness.
 
TBH I don't think riding in a tail bag is ever a good idea. But onto the horse, I am not convinced that he is lame as he looks how Tarquin used when I was trying to get him to canter, he used canter in front and trot behind. He was not lame or sick in anyway just rushing and lacking confidence. He was still a little weak through his back as I suspect your lad is and so if I sat to canter he could not step through to perform the transition.
Keep going with him, he is a nice horse. And don't get off when he is naughty it only backs up being bad even if you do get back on. You said he has never done it before so maybe a one off, good luck with getting him through this.
 
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