Wat is this pony doing? Also RE blinkers

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Can someone identify what this pony is doing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2FgSMui9sI

Its not just bucking, its also rearing.. So can this be called bronking(sp) although hes pretty much staying on the same spot?

Someone posted about the use of blinkers earlier, do you think that blinkers would help with the ponys rearing?

CC welcome but dont be too harsh please. The pony has had its back,teeth and tack checked many times! Thanks.
 
LOL, naughty pony! I'd get a pro on board and see if they can sort it. It actually looks like it doesn't want to go forward, perhaps due to a rider giving mixed signals or a physical problem?
 
Pony appears to be doing whatever it takes to get the rider off..... probably because said rider is clinging onto its mouth for dear life.... (which is understandable if it does this regularly i supose).... had the saddle fit checked???
 
My new pony does that!
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It's napping. You just have to ride them through it. Herbie starts off small and gets bigger and bigger and also spins round. Its realy easy to sit to but very annoying. Just got to drive them forward before it becomes a habbit like it has with herbie he's got away with it to many times with previous owners.
 
Pony also does this when being lead from the yard - with no tack on just a head collar... so must be down to napping..?

It was said that the pony had only been used as a lead rein pony for 2 years, it went away for schooling and came back like this.

lexie - yes that is the reason the rider is 'hanging on'.
 
Pony looked quite tense and unhappy. When it stops have you tried turning it in a circle to keep it on the move. Also are the rider's leg's gripping too hard. I think try with a very relaxed rider who can keep the pony moving forwards.

(I watched a Mark Rashid demo once when a big horse was a chronic bucker when sent into canter. Mark told the rider to stop gripping and within minutes the horse was cantering without a buck!)
 
Laura - this is the problem, this pony has got away with this for over a year now, makes me angry that no one sorted this out in the first place, he has just been pushed from pillar to post which wont help him either. The pony is now bad tempered and worthless, even as a companion as he kicks. Hes only just 13hh so generally speaking theres not a huge amount of adults who would take him on, thus he will be a childs riding pony - i doubt now he will ever be safe enough now though. Its a shame as he is a nice pony and has done well perviously at showing.
 
This may sound harsh but get someone behind it with a lunge whip to drive it forward (you don't have to hit them if they are scared of the cracking noise). We had to do this with Herbie as he sounds similar to yours (he did it even when not ridden). If this is not sorted out you will have a dangarous pony on your hands.
 
Riders reins were short and yes proably too tight but this was to try and keep the ponys head up to try and stop it from puting its head down and bucking as they had been riding it normaly the day before and it has still bucked and reared with a light contact on the rein. The rider was trying to keep the pony going forward - hence having their leg on, i dont think it was ment to be gripping though.
 
he is broncing in an attempt to nap, jazz does that sometime. they need to keep there leg on the horses side and keep it on firmly. sitting trot might be easier until the pony respect the leg.
 
Laura - this is excatally wat the 'pro' has said to do too =] Glad that you are sorting your pony out, i think this one has gone on for too long, but we shall see what hes like after the winter.
 
first of all id get a neck strap on the pony so the rider wasnt hanging onto his mouth. If trying to ride him forward wasnt working, and all tack, back, teeth ect had been checked, it may sound drastic but id be administering a sound smack with a whip til he learnt this wasnt acceptable behaviour.
Id also second Flame_ and get a pro on board.
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another thing i find helps with nappiness, pick up bits of rubber or (very small) pebbles and stand from a distance and throgh!
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pony doesnt know where its coming from and decides they would rather go forwards than have random things hit there bum! worked wonders with a mare i knew, but obviously bear in mind every horse is different!
 
What is pony like to lunge / two line lunge?

It looks to me like it is doing all it can to get it's rider off and to be fair I've seen more explosive reactions and it does seem to give a bit of a warning that it's going to do it sugesting to me that it's naughtiness rather than a reaction to pain... may be wrong...

Before I saw it I was going to sugest you give the pony a few months off just to be a horse and then start afresh with a refreshed attitude (both you and pony)... this still wouldn't be a bad idea...

I cant see if you are carrying a stick but I'd sugest you do - a nice long schooling one and be prepared to give him a sharp ONE to back up your leg as you feel him THINK about doing this...
 
As far as blinkers go, with this I don't think it would make the blindest bit of difference. Having watched the video he just looks like he is being a bit of a sod. He knows what he is doing and if he keeps doing it eventually the rider will plop off. It is very slow motion and not aggresive so I wouldn't have thought it was down to any pain.
If it was me, I would make up a dummy person or weighted sack, strap it on and lunge it and drive him forwards if he starts pratting about. That way he will realise the dummy/sack is not going to fall off with him jumping about. When the rider is on board, they need a bit of stickability and again, drive him forwards and a couple of smacked bums wouldn't go amiss.
 
My first horse used to do very similar, and to be honest I was 10 years old and not the best rider, he was nearly 16hh and very strong, so trying to fight him was useless.
The only way that I could get him to go forward (which did cure his napping, after I'd had him for 6 months he never did it again, now he lives with my mother back in Canada, and my 80 year old granny rides him!) was to let go of his head completely, grab the neck strap and give him a smack, accompanied with vocal aids. After a few occurences, the whip was no longer needed, and all I had to do was growl at him.
 
Forget the stick, take a hand off and your body will follow!
Looks like naughtiness, and as long as all checks have been done i'd have a saddle with a handle and pony on lunge. Rider stays hell bent on sticking in the plate, lunger encourages forwards movement and reinforces with praise. I've straightened one out at a similar stage, but obviously not all horses are the same. Mine had just learnt how easily some people popped off, and played on it. Once he realised I was staying he steadied up and soon forgot his behaviour. We also, due to other reasons, had a saddle change from the one made to measure to one I had anyway. Am convinced the new saddle *may* have started things off.
In my experience a nappy horse doesn't respond well to force, and i'd always try positive reinforcement and ignoring the bad first.
Naughty pony!!
 
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Thats why you do it as early as possible - i.e while the pony is THINKING about doing it!... it gives enough bloody warning!!
 
Cyberchick - the dummy is what i thought of doing too but i havnt been able to think of anyway of sucuring it to him?

He lunges very well and dosnt do this on the lunge. But dos when being lead away from the yard. I dont want to long rein him as he has been know to kick before.

Hes had the winter off in a bid to try and settle him and reasure him that nothing bad is goin to happen to him.

I agree with everything that everyone has said here but i have no one else to help with him when he is at home. i shall be taking him to a place where i work after the winter, so there is more people on hand to help. Also just want to say thank you everyone for the advice too.
 
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