watching Olympia now.

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Just watching Olympia now, The display of loose horses is on. Can't remember the name of the man although I've seen him before.
Not sure what I think really. He obviously has a lot of control, but some of the horses don't look happy. The little Shetland is very fat too.
Just can't decide if I like it or not. What do others think?
 
I found it after I saw this post and then I sat here just staring at the TV for the Cavalry part it was memorizing even if the camera work wasn't brilliant
 
Ive seen him before. I know what you mean though, I cant decide if I can see any point to it really, not overly entertaining. Imo he has too many horses to work with in one go, he spends a lot of time getting them all to do the same thing at the same time so I found it a bit boring. I appreciate the trust element between them all but I also thought there were quite a few with ears pinned back!
 
I have seen it all so far!

Wasn't as impressed with the french guy as I have been before, I'm not sure I liked it as much at all. Horses didn't look as happy and some that were told to lie down ended up rolling and messing around themselves! Didn't he used to ride then bareback and stand on their backs and jump them all, or am I thinking of someone else?

Dog agility was good fun, as it always is to watch :D

I wish they'd shown all of the pairs class, or from the start of the show. They did say it was coverage of the whole event from quarter to 7, but the coverage seemed to start near the end of the pairs class. Without any real introduction as to what was going on. I don't have red button on our TV (BT Vision doesn't recognise!) so am having to watch it online through the sport page. Not impressed by that :(

Ben Maher and Scott Brash did look silly in their Mrs Santa and Christmas Tree hat with the glasses. And the matchy matchy painted hooves on their horses made me laugh too.
 
Wasn't as impressed with the french guy as I have been before, I'm not sure I liked it as much at all. Horses didn't look as happy and some that were told to lie down ended up rolling and messing around themselves! Didn't he used to ride then bareback and stand on their backs and jump them all, or am I thinking of someone else?

Dog agility was good fun, as it always is to watch :D

I wish they'd shown all of the pairs class, or from the start of the show. They did say it was coverage of the whole event from quarter to 7, but the coverage seemed to start near the end of the pairs class. Without any real introduction as to what was going on. I don't have red button on our TV (BT Vision doesn't recognise!) so am having to watch it online through the sport page. Not impressed by that :(

Ben Maher and Scott Brash did look silly in their Mrs Santa and Christmas Tree hat with the glasses. And the matchy matchy painted hooves on their horses made me laugh too.[/QUOTE]

Search for a separate red button channel. I have Freesat in Ireland so none of my coloured buttons work but I have BBC RB. I don't think I'd bother if I had to watch online.
 
I've just watched the first part of this red button coverage too. It's really nice to be able to see the whole evening if you can't actually get there! I was also wondering about the horses working with the French guy. I have seen him before in the past but never noticed before so much that many of the horses do flatten their ears when he comes past them, and in quite an odd way too, almost sideways and flat, more like a sick horse. I'm not immediately wanting to jump on a 'oh he must be mistreating them' bandwagon; I was wondering if this can also be another type of signal? Perhaps submission to a very strong herd leader ( ie him) or jealousy of the other horses around him? They don't seem to do it every time he is near them, mainly at the start of an instruction. The young stock did not do it as much. Anybody got any interesting theories?
 
I have seen it all so far!

Wasn't as impressed with the french guy as I have been before, I'm not sure I liked it as much at all. Horses didn't look as happy and some that were told to lie down ended up rolling and messing around themselves! Didn't he used to ride then bareback and stand on their backs and jump them all, or am I thinking of someone else?

Dog agility was good fun, as it always is to watch :D

I wish they'd shown all of the pairs class, or from the start of the show. They did say it was coverage of the whole event from quarter to 7, but the coverage seemed to start near the end of the pairs class. Without any real introduction as to what was going on. I don't have red button on our TV (BT Vision doesn't recognise!) so am having to watch it online through the sport page. Not impressed by that :(

Ben Maher and Scott Brash did look silly in their Mrs Santa and Christmas Tree hat with the glasses. And the matchy matchy painted hooves on their horses made me laugh too.

I have BT and have the red button its channel 601 or go to channel one and constantly hit the red button :)
 
This is Jean Francois Pignon, Lorenzo is different. I don't mind the ears back as I think horses in close contact do that, but I do believe he is quite tough on his horses (not abusive but takes no rubbish from them, they are firmly put in their place). I trained with a guy who worked with him and it was all effective and the horses understood it, that said, I much prefer Emma Massingales approach, it's much more me.
 
I'd be interested to know if you all had the same feelings about the Cavalry horses that are trained to lie down? I've seen a demo from one of the HC guys on how they train them to do it and I would say it's not as lovey dovey as some would like... Though granted they don't force it and only use the horses that take to it BUT it still isn't 'come here darling and lie down like a good horse'.
 
I have BT and have the red button its channel 601 or go to channel one and constantly hit the red button :)

have tried that, our problem is we have the HD channels and for some reason BT Vision doesn't let us get the normal BBC non-HD channels, and it says that red button/601 isn't enabled for HD. Have tried it on bbc 2, 3 and 4 and I get the same message. I've tried to sort it out before but haven't had much luck as we just seem to lose channels and get others added. I think it's a BT Vision problem.
 
It just seems all so weird. Surely, once he did his round, he, the horse and the tack would be checked, so then at that moment he can be notified if there was an issue... not when all the others have tried to beat him.
 
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