WEG show jumping thread

only_me said:
I wouldn't be impressed! Seems a bit much imo to travel that far after xc. But from all accounts it dosent appear to be a great championships as organisation seems a bit lacking for all involved!
That poor rider who got 44 faults, think he was just wishing for the round to be over!!
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We were at WEG all week for the Dressage - don't get me started on the so-called "organisation"!!! The French couldn't organise a pee-up in a brewery!!!!
 
With a foot in both the GBR and Australian camps I must say that the SJ was once again Germany first the rest nowhere! They are so solid on the final day where both GBR/Aus it all fell apart a bit. Credit also due to both the Dutch girls who were amazing to pull their team up into Bronze.

I think we need better jumping horses if either are to break this German stronghold on the Championships before Rio. GB has been weak on the final day for a number of years now. Same story at Luhmuelen 2011, London 2012 and Malmo 2013.

By contrast, Ingrid and Sandra's horses never looked like touching a pole. And Michael is just a machine anyway!

My condolences to Harry Meade. What a lovely jumper Wild Lone was.
 
Darremi said:
With a foot in both the GBR and Australian camps I must say that the SJ was once again Germany first the rest nowhere! They are so solid on the final day where both GBR/Aus it all fell apart a bit. Credit also due to both the Dutch girls who were amazing to pull their team up into Bronze.

I think we need better jumping horses if either are to break this German stronghold on the Championships before Rio. GB has been weak on the final day for a number of years now. Same story at Luhmuelen 2011, London 2012 and Malmo 2013.

By contrast, Ingrid and Sandra's horses never looked like touching a pole. And Michael is just a machine anyway!

My condolences to Harry Meade. What a lovely jumper Wild Lone was.
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I agree with you . . . and it says something that Sandra's horse was bought by the German Olympic federation . . . that's commitment to the sport.

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PolarSkye said:
I agree with you . . . and it says something that Sandra's horse was bought by the German Olympic federation . . . that's commitment to the sport.

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Well to be fair I don't think the BEF or EA is as well funded as the German Olympic Federation!

But really if you look at the SJ records of the GB and Aus horses you could say that they performed to what they are capable of. The problem is that we need horses which are more capable, better jumpers, consistently putting in clears on the final day.

Having said that what a round from Zara. For a 7/8 TB High Kingdom is a very good SJ'er. I saw him jump in the flesh at London 2012 and he was as impressive then.
 
Darremi said:
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My condolences to Harry Meade. What a lovely jumper Wild Lone was.
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and what a lovely man he is too. I've just listened to Will Connell and his manner of dealing with the tragedy, and how he paid tribute the Jess, the horse's devastated groom. Then Harry Meade himself, God how I wish that I had a horse for him to ride, such humility and decency, and such a tribute to a first class course. His parents will be very, very proud of him.

Alec.
 
Darremi said:
With a foot in both the GBR and Australian camps I must say that the SJ was once again Germany first the rest nowhere! They are so solid on the final day where both GBR/Aus it all fell apart a bit. Credit also due to both the Dutch girls who were amazing to pull their team up into Bronze.

I think we need better jumping horses if either are to break this German stronghold on the Championships before Rio. GB has been weak on the final day for a number of years now. Same story at Luhmuelen 2011, London 2012 and Malmo 2013.

By contrast, Ingrid and Sandra's horses never looked like touching a pole. And Michael is just a machine anyway!

My condolences to Harry Meade. What a lovely jumper Wild Lone was.
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I think a big factor is that the German team and their horses have competed at 1.40/1.50 national GP showjumping level amd do so as part of their training. Can't see any of the British or Irish horses going anywhere near a smaller less technical 1.40 class. One also has to question would a lot of the riders in general be capable of riding the more careful horses without the horses jacking it. The standard of show jumping overall was downright embarrassing for a World championship and it was more to do with riders making mistakes than horses!!
 
Well done GB (especially Harry). It wasn't a brilliant performance but it was as much as could be expected given the weakness of the team. Annie Clover's SJ round must be a bit of a worry though.

I think we probably need to be technically better full stop. The Germans put enormous emphasis on technique and that pays off in the dressage and the SJ.
 
armchair_rider said:
Well done GB (especially Harry). It wasn't a brilliant performance but it was as much as could be expected given the weakness of the team. Annie Clover's SJ round must be a bit of a worry though.

I think we probably need to be technically better full stop. The Germans put enormous emphasis on technique and that pays off in the dressage and the SJ.
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i think annie clover looked a little shell shocked by the whole thing
there was a lot of different things for a young horse like that to deal with , she'd not have much experience in an atmosphere like that and then an extra hour's travel to the sj venue etc , my horse would think he was going home and be a bit suprised to find himself in there instead

she looked fab xc where conditions would be a bit more "normal" for her , i think the experience would have done her the world of good for the future
 
Annie clover will have learnt a lot from today- plus the seating was very steep so the crowds were right there. In a couple of years time she'll be a real contender I think....
 
angelish said:
i think annie clover looked a little shell shocked by the whole thing
there was a lot of different things for a young horse like that to deal with , she'd not have much experience in an atmosphere like that and then an extra hour's travel to the sj venue etc , my horse would think he was going home and be a bit suprised to find himself in there instead

she looked fab xc where conditions would be a bit more "normal" for her , i think the experience would have done her the world of good for the future
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Unfortunately XC ability is no longer enough. The problem is the GB/Aus horses don't seem to have such good technique as the German horses. But I also take the point about the riders coming from a pure show jumping background or doing pure SJ as part of their training.

That must be a big help when you then have to jump at 1.30
 
angelish said:
i think annie clover looked a little shell shocked by the whole thing
there was a lot of different things for a young horse like that to deal with , she'd not have much experience in an atmosphere like that and then an extra hour's travel to the sj venue etc , my horse would think he was going home and be a bit suprised to find himself in there instead

she looked fab xc where conditions would be a bit more "normal" for her , i think the experience would have done her the world of good for the future
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Agree with this, I think the atmosphere was just a bit overwhelming. Annie is the most inexperienced by far of the GB horses but coped exceptionally well for a good dressage and fantastic XC run on the toughest track by far she's ever done. Normally Annie goes clear SJ or gets 4 pens so the SJ was very unlike her so we can pretty much put it down to the atmosphere. Nicola rode very sympathetically. IMO Annie is one to watch for the future easily.
 
I hope you guys are right about Annie Clover - and it certainly isn't any disgrace for a young horse to have that kind of round especially after going so well in the earlier phases. I just hope she doesn't go the same way as King William who, after winning Badminton, always had a tendency to panic in the SJing at major events.
 
hcm88 said:
Agree with this, I think the atmosphere was just a bit overwhelming. Annie is the most inexperienced by far of the GB horses but coped exceptionally well for a good dressage and fantastic XC run on the toughest track by far she's ever done. Normally Annie goes clear SJ or gets 4 pens so the SJ was very unlike her so we can pretty much put it down to the atmosphere. Nicola rode very sympathetically. IMO Annie is one to watch for the future easily.
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That stadium was incredibly noisy during the dressage, I've never been in one so noisy. As a football stadium, maybe that works, but for horses, I'm not sure it was the best!
 
I just got home as William finished his round, so sat through the highlights gutted for him. However, considering they were a relatively novice team I think they did fantastically well and have an exciting future.

Considering this was Annie Clover's first four star it was a huge venue. Whenever she's jumped at 3 star she had been great, let's hope she gets over her "stage fright" and steps up.

I just wanted to hug Harry. What a brave soul walking out there with the emotional roller coaster of a weekend he's had. I hope that he finds another ride soon.

I was also really pleased for Zara, I thought it looked like it was all coming back together again for her. I saw a still photo of where she nearly came off XC, and she did well, she was completely behind the saddle! I would have gone out the back door.
 
Team GB did a fantastic job in Normandy, I reckon. Qualified for Rio. WFP was so close. Damn that one pole. Nicola and her girl will just get better and better. Zara did a fab job so soon after having a baby. And dear Harry. My heart goes out to him. Here's wishing him all good wishes. He will be back to fight another day, I'm sure.
A lot of fabulous potential there.
 
I do think Team GB did a great job given the circumstances - Zara's SJ was fab, and I was so disappointed for WFP as I just love that horse. But the Germans quite simply outclassed everyone, particularly in the SJ. Michale Jung makes it look like he's just out for a school over a BE90, never mind it being the world champs! I do wonder if we need to up our game in the SJ somewhat...
 
And I think the commentators might have told those who applaud during tests to shut it.
They had a minute of silence for Rodolphe Sherer's father. They might have mentioned Wild Lone too?
 
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