Weight loss…which method??

Luckily for me and my horse I can’t ride her until December so I have a bit of time. But that’s not the only motivation, I want to get fitter for my own sake and I want to look better in my clothes (I’m still the same size as I was two kilos ago but I look better slimmer).
 
@Kirstineridesagain - I feel I might be quite similar to you. I can’t use the children excuse but I’m older (nearly fifty (how in the hell did that happen?!!) so my excuse is hormones)

I’ve gone from pretty slim to overweight with a three stone increase in five years. That entirely coincides with new relationship. He likes to buy snacks and we like to eat out. I’m still not large to look at, people don’t think I have an overweight BMI.

I tried the “buy a bigger horse” option but they have not played ball. Now I have a native pony with EMS back in work and the larger horse looking lame in 3 out of 4 legs and unlikely to be any functional use at all. I need to loose a stone for the ponies sake.

I tried upping exercise and just ended up starving with no will power. I maintained my weight but didn’t loose any. As of this weekend I have just told myself I eat too much and I eat the wrong things (sweet tooth) so I need to be mindful of what goes in my mouth…

Which seems so simple 🤣
 
greasedweasel said:
@Kirstineridesagain - I feel I might be quite similar to you. I can’t use the children excuse but I’m older (nearly fifty (how in the hell did that happen?!!) so my excuse is hormones)

I’ve gone from pretty slim to overweight with a three stone increase in five years. That entirely coincides with new relationship. He likes to buy snacks and we like to eat out. I’m still not large to look at, people don’t think I have an overweight BMI.

I tried the “buy a bigger horse” option but they have not played ball. Now I have a native pony with EMS back in work and the larger horse looking lame in 3 out of 4 legs and unlikely to be any functional use at all. I need to loose a stone for the ponies sake.

I tried upping exercise and just ended up starving with no will power. I maintained my weight but didn’t loose any. As of this weekend I have just told myself I eat too much and I eat the wrong things (sweet tooth) so I need to be mindful of what goes in my mouth…

Which seems so simple 🤣
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Seems simple, but then life gets in the way! I am not really blaming the children for my weight either, although I didn’t snap back in shape after my fourth…plus I was so large in my last pregnancy that my stomach muscles and skin got stretched and I look slightly pregnant (especially now that I’m heavier). Good luck to us both! Keep me updated!
 
canteron said:
Oh dear, you disappoint me so much, I always thought you were quite wise, but I think that was an unnecessary pop against vegans - so acceptable in modern culture, but still not kind.
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Ehh?
As well as the super-fit, ultramarathon Kiwis, I also know, like s bloom, a couple of seriously obese vegans (admittedly a mother and daughter, living in the UK), and of course there will be many more!
Weight / overweight isn’t merely about what you eat, you know
 
Definitely calorie deficit. I managed to loose weight by eliminating snacks and eating three meals a day. I looked at each meal and asked myself how I could improve it. For example breakfast is now always porridge made with water,with a chopped apple,a few grapes and a sprinkle of seeds and cinnamon and fat free greek yoghurt. No sugar or substitute . Lunch is salad with eggs or fish or chicken with a little olive oil and balsamic vinegar dressing.or home made veg soup. Dinner is protein and veg with some cheese usually,so bean casserole with a bit of cheese and followed by fruit. Easy to stick too. Watch portion size and half alcohol intake.
 
If calorie deficit works for you then you have a healthy set point weight because your own mindset and your environment, or changes you are able to make to it, are easily able to flex to help you with that goal. This isn't true for many people and "calories in calories out" just makes them feel even more inadequate.

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The end of yo-yo dieting? Brain switch that controls fat burning uncovered

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And then there're findings like this

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Calorie Deficit for sure - I've done SW, WW etc and this is defiantly the best way. I've lost 1stone 7ibs since January - so it's slow but hoping that way I will keep it off. Another 6Ibs to go ideally. Alo increasing your exercise. Nutracheck app is great - I swear by it. I have Gousto meals 4 nights a week and always choose meals under 600 cals.
 
Calorie Deficit for sure - I've done SW, WW etc and this is defiantly the best way. I've lost 1stone 7ibs since January - so it's slow but hoping that way I will keep it off. Another 6Ibs to go ideally. Alo increasing your exercise. Nutracheck app is great - I swear by it. I have Gousto meals 4 nights a week and always choose meals under 600 cals.
 
Stenners said:
Calorie Deficit for sure - I've done SW, WW etc and this is defiantly the best way. I've lost 1stone 7ibs since January - so it's slow but hoping that way I will keep it off. Another 6Ibs to go ideally. Alo increasing your exercise. Nutracheck app is great - I swear by it. I have Gousto meals 4 nights a week and always choose meals under 600 cals.
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Funnily enough I am almost identical.
Calorie deficit, plan everything I am going to eat a week in advance in MFP and have Gousto 4 days a week and always choose meals under 600 cals. 1st 4.5 pounds down since mid Jan. Slow and sustainable.
 
I would recommend more exercise , ideally horse inspired such as volunteering to muck out extra stables at a yard. Make sure you take only healthy food with you for your lunch and only eat that …. And do as much riding as possible !
 
I would recommend more exercise , ideally horse inspired such as volunteering to muck out extra stables at a yard. Make sure you take only healthy food with you for your lunch and only eat that …. And do as much riding as possible !
 
I would recommend more exercise , ideally horse inspired such as volunteering to muck out extra stables at a yard. Make sure you take only healthy food with you for your lunch and only eat that …. And do as much riding as possible ! Apologies for the multiple posts ! Forum playing up !
 
FieldOrnaments said:
"just make better choices" is not how it works at all
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And? If it works for some people then fine everyone is different.

I was referring to ME in the post as you can tell! I said I just make better choices.

Some people can survive eating the bare minimum and looking practically starving and they are happy doing that!

Some people exercise a bunch and eat what they like.

Ive struggled my whole life with my weight.. not sure everyone does. But I am proud of ME for getting where I am thank you very much!!’
 
Watched a very interesting short video today about the weight loss jab.

Some very interesting points were raised.

1. Don't take it without medical supervision.

2. Make sure you change your eating habits. Having your appetite suppressed is not enough. You need to take an holistic approach.

3. Make sure that approach includes high levels of healthy protein to help support muscle mass.

4. Ensure moderate exercise is part of your weight loss plan.
 
Fire sign said:
I would recommend more exercise , ideally horse inspired such as volunteering to muck out extra stables at a yard. Make sure you take only healthy food with you for your lunch and only eat that …. And do as much riding as possible !
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I may be able to ride a friend’s horse now and again until my own can be brought into work next winter. I’m sure I could help out at the yard (but am reluctant to volunteer for the RDA because of varying work commitments).

I’m running and doing Pilates every other day (since five days ago lol) and will increase both time wise and intensity wise. Not noticing any changes in my body yet but if I can keep a calorie deficit too then something should start to happen.
 
Kirstineridesagain said:
@sbloom I like Rebelfit’s principles, they make a lot of sense. I’m following now.

As for set point weight, I have been several different weights in my adult life, and it just increased (probably stress/hormones) but I don’t accept that this latest weight gain should dictate a new set point. I was diagnosed with pcos in my twenties when I struggled to conceive (but then had four children!) however my periods are regular and I guess perimenopause is what’s contributing too.

Since I wrote my update I’ve tried to stay calm but determined to make some changes (but slimming world isn’t for me). I want to add in weight training but can’t start that until the autumn (I’m away all summer). I’ll do my Pilates and short run/walks plus swimming and if I can manage to lose a bit rather than gain that’s a win.

I’ll re-read all your advice and devise a strategy that won’t set me up to fail. Thanks everyone.
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If can't start weights just yet, try adding bodyweight training in. Pushups, bodyweight squats, single leg work etc.
 
Barton Bounty said:
I do not starve myself and I eat more now than I did when I was fatter. Just make better choices.

Calorie deficit is best!
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I agree with this, actually.

I am consistently dropping weight. I eat three meals a day. Im certainly not starving!

Yesterday I had
- one piece of toast with avocado and smoked salmon with some fresh chilli. I did not butter the bread. Also half a grapefruit (no sugar added)
- sushi for lunch
- baked Salmon (no oil) with eggplant, pepper and baby tomato (again, no oil) and an orange with a large fistful of blueberries.

It's simple things like cutting back on oils and butter, having one piece of toast instead of two, filling up on plenty of fresh vegetables.

You dont have to starve to lose weight, you just need to be really consistent, be mindful about where those extra calories are coming from.

Walking is ideal. You dont need to run and exhaust yourself. Aim to do a 5k walk each day.
 
Cut out eating rubbish, fatty food and creamy sauces like mayo. Drink water as much as possible instead of soda. Cut out sugar where possible. Remember you can say no to cakes people give you.

Get plenty of protein and if you're running you will get fit and lose weight. Hormones don't help women. You will lose fat internally first so you might not notice it as much at first.

Try add a bit of weight bearing exercise in your routine.

Being on the go a lot I sometimes have to pick up something quick from the shop. Sainsburys and M & S do nice ready made salads for meal deals and the bigger morrisons have salad bars where you can get a meal deal.
 
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Amymay Again said:
Of course it is. It's basic biology. Cut out rubbish, replace with healthy.
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"Just make better choices" assumes a perfectly logical brain, which none of us have, is the thing. And easy access to "healthy" alternatives. And "healthy" is a non-specific term that means different things in different contexts. You can absolutely make better choices for yourself but those choices look different for everybody. Kind of links into the set point weight thing, everyone is an individual product of genetics, personal history and environment and you can't just choose to ignore those factors when you want to make changes. "Basic biology" ignores reality, which is more complicated.

For example, and not in a sly way Jenko, that sounds like a great days eating, but oils and fats are satiating and make things taste good! So some people will do better NOT skipping them. I do much better including fats. I also can't cut out "rubbish", I can't actually think of any food as rubbish or off limits or I will crave and eventually binge it, so my two chocolate digestives after dinner are a healthy choice for me. So is the cheese in my omelette. That is a personal history factor based on previous disordered eating. I also have coeliac disease which limits my high fibre food choices so that's a genetic factor BUT it's also given me a really solid background in checking ingredients lists and thinking about what I eat, and planning meals. Environmentally I am lucky in that I have access to and can afford decent produce and have an OH who cooks from scratch and doesn't like takeaways!

All that to say, it's not necessarily basic or simple to find the best way to eat that works for an individual. Some of us are luckier than others and find it simple or easy but it isn't a failure to find it hard.
 
I find avoiding carbs/sugars in all forms blooming hard but mostly do-able, IF I eat plenty of fats and protein, because as said above, these are satiating and help suppress my carb cravings. They also provide the fuel I need.

Calories in v calories out is just far too simplistic, as SBloom said above, we don't all have that kind of brain/body.
 
Calorie deficit, slow and steady- and logging food really helps me- also consistency, and by that I don't mean perfection- I mean figuring out what you can do toward your goal each day, and doing it- and when you do have a "moment" don't let it derail you completely. I got this advice from a podcast I follow called "Losing 100" I am overweight but losing it (albeit slowly) with calorie deficit you can eat what you want, when you want. My relationship with food is not healthy, so for me, mentally, this works the best- but there are man roads to success, it's what works for you
 
Amymay Again said:
Of course it is. It's basic biology. Cut out rubbish, replace with healthy.
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And yet there's plenty of research out there, dating back a fair way, that shows that basic biology is far from simple, and weight loss is very different for everyone. It's why I direct everyone to Rebelfit because they look at what causes YOUR individual set point weight (the weight your mind and body will gravitate to, and there's not always too much you can do to avoid it) and help you deal first with that through mental health, environment etc. Then those choices, and that "basic biology" can START to apply to those people, with caution.
 
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